Breakaway Labour MP’s

grannyPauline

That was a massive massive mistake I agree and it had tainted his very, in my view, successful domestic career.

But I think he sincerely belived he was doing what he thought was the right thing but was badly advised and manipulated.

No way is Farage principled - a complete hypocrite and chancer.

I agree Mycat and we don’t know what he was told by intelligence in America and other countries .

Suzied

No he’s been campaigning for what he sincerely belived for decades.,as I say I don’t agree with him but I can respect principals. As far as I know chancers change their minds to get ahead. He has not.

Anyway that’s my view. And I profoundly disagree with him.

Anniebach yes exactly

How quickly the benefits this country gained with a Blair Brown government is forgotten or the fact Blair was the only labour leader to win three consecutive general elections. He reached out across the country .

I do agree Anniebach under his watch all the schools in my area were rebuilt, the NHS worked splendidly and crime was low.

Of course mistakes were made of course they were but he did many good things too.

And he was electable

Same here Mycat and Sure Start and the minimum wage ,

Can I revisit a question from yesterday but with a change of numbers now 11 MP's have resigned from their respective parties.

The talk at the minute is about the 11 MP's who have resigned from their respective parties.

There are calls for them to have the guts to hold bi-elections and stand as Independents.

There are other MP's currently sitting in Parliament who have either ' Resigned ' from their party, have been ' 'Expelled ' from their party or ' Resigned the Whip ' from their party.

Should they also be told alongside the 11 who have just resigned from their parties to stand as INDEPENDENTS and hold bi - elections in their constituencies too?

Unless they have a temporary ' removal of the whip ' awaiting outcomes of wrong doing why not?

Mycatisahacker This is the same Nigel Farage who pretends to be a man of the people and is photographed standing outside pubs with a pint in his hand but used to be a banker? Whose children have Irish and German passports so they won't be affected by Brexit. There is I think a certain mismatch between his actions and his speeches-A man is as he does!
I was thinking about the discussions which will now be going on -can they be a party? And what can they be called? They can't be the Independent Group because that might be confused with people standing as Independent MPs.
Democrats-ooh that's been used. Social-no too many bad connections. Whatever is left?

Farage was elected to the EU parliament as UKIP candidate. He subsequently resigned from UKIP but I haven't noticed him resigning and standing in a by-election.

POGS yes either all or none

I love the fact 11 MPs who are demanding a People's Vote are now refusing to call by-elections after leaving their respective parties!
Double standards or what? ?

Yes surestart indeed, sadly gone now due to Tory cuts.
tricher

Farages wife is German so that’s perfectly normal?

Also are bankers not allowed to have a pint in the pub and be normal people? That’s a bit of an odd view.

I think it’s really important to respect those who in my view act honourably whole profoundly disagreeing with them.

Just watched PMQs. Soon we won’t know who is sitting with who and what party they represent.

If they form a party trisher not can they form a party , they can form a party ,

Only if they can find enough funding Annie

urmstrongran

What are the rules for this? Can they be ousted by their constituents or have they a right to stay until a GE? Is it in their gift to choose to stay put?

I wonder if funding would come from business? Say people like Alan sugar who opposes Brexit?

OMG!!!! Is anyone listening to Jess Phillips? I think again a really principled woman and labour through and through but said ‘if you are not in Jeremy’s gang you are ignored’

Christ that’s bad.

Mycat if 10% of all their constituents sign a petition there can be a By election,

Right thankyou Anniebach so we may well see some then

Re calling by elections - what about the Labour MP currently serving a custodial sentence for lying, perverting the course of justice, texting while driving, and speeding.
She has refused to stand down!
As one of the MPs pointed out yesterday, it is the candidate’s name which takes precedence on the ballot paper, not the party.

Maw if she is given over a year sentence she is out, if under a year then same applies as to the other MP’s,
10% of her constituents need to want her out , not 10% of a party but the constituents

Good point Maw I’d forgotten about her!

And thanks for the clarification Annie

I do admire Jess Phillips so much even though her politics are not totally mine.

I felt her pain and almost fear in her interview with Sky.

Maw the woman you are talking about is not still a member of the Labour party but is refusing to resign the seat.