Breakaway Labour MP’s

Anti semites ? It would explain Labour HQ insisted the MP gave a full apology. There is much on twitter from anti semites saying the same as you Day6

There is bound to be speculation, as LB is a former director of Friends of Israel and has been a victim of anti Semitism, that it maybe where any funding for any new political group might be coming from. There is no evidence this is the case. Just gossip.

in my opinion this gossip is anti Semitic, the 11 who have left their parties are not all Jews

Listening as I type to Parliament ' Live' ANTI - SEMITISM DEBATE.

Barry Gardiner is doing his best but nobody is fooled and as with other Anti - Semitism Debates the evidence is as clear as a pike staff.

Labour changed when the Jeremy for Leader/ Corbyn/Momentum party took over the Labour Party.

There is much on twitter from anti semites saying the same as you Day6

Annie, I am reporting what I read, in an online GN debate. ie: looking at all the angles. That does not make me anti-semetic!! Get a grip!

I abhor all types of racism.

Not every mention of Israel is anti-semetic! It would be inappropriate for any political party to be funded by a powerful lobby group for another nation whatever that nation was!

As it is there is no evidence to suggest that is the case. The gossip has rightly been swiftly squashed. Again if it had not been Labour would have been slagged off for not doing so..but is equally s being sneered at for do denouncing it! No win !

It is against the law for other countries to donate money to any political campaign in this country .

In my opinion to even speculate Israel could give money to these 11 MP’s because several are Jews is anti semetic.

Carry on, I left the party because of racist attacks and smears , I certaintly don’t want to read it here

In my opinion to even speculate Israel could give money to these 11 MP’s because several are Jews is anti semetic.

So we musn't mention it, even though it has been reported in several papers, and then dismissed? That it happened remains a fact Annie.

It is not an 'attack' or a 'smear', merely a report of something that happened. Don't be too quick to label innocent people. That is quite offensive.

Nobody was speculating that Israel was donating money but that the group Friends of Israel may be.

Annie & others why do you think criticism of a country implies hatred for its people? There has been a lot of criticism of the Venezualan government but we do not equate that with hatred for Venezuelan people.

Annie You know that my father grew up in what is now Israel. He lost his family home. My family is dispersed all over the place. This was due to a political ideal not because of Jewish individuals. It is almost impossible for me to express my legitimate views on Israel without accusations of anti-Semitism . In the past you have asked me what Palestine had to do with the Labour Party. My answer is just as much as Israel has.

Day 6

may I just say you make great posts and I agree with you..

Thank you for challenging people on here with respect

I understand your comments, keep going.

Andy

Badass Baz says he made a "formal complaint" about Labour letting Derek Hatton back in on the same day Luciana Berger quit.

twitter.com/mattchorley/status/1098264339214204928?s=21

This so called Independent party is funded by Gavin Shuker. Labour MP South Luton, where I live.

Here 72% of us voted Leave in the referendum

He avidly supports remain despite that, so goes against the will of democracy nationally, and my own Constituency..

Pretty vile I would say.

A traitor indeed...

best wishes

My MP voted Leave but we, his constituents voted Remain

Pretty vile I would say.

A traitor indeed...

He's the bloomin' Foreign Secretary!

Thank you Andy. Much appreciated.

I do hope the electorate of Luton are wise as to the goings on of their wealthy Labour MP Andy

Ah - they are. This from the local paper.

"Markus Keaney, chairman of Luton South Constituency Labour Party (CLP), said: “There is no chance of him getting re-elected without standing on a Labour Party ticket. “He will be absolutely annihilated and he will be confined to the dustbin of history where he belongs.
“As a CLP, we’re very disappointed that a lot of us put aside political differences with Gavin in 2017 to knock on doors and work towards his increased majority – which he only got because of Labour’s 2017 manifesto .”

www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/luton-borough-council-leader-calls-for-by-election-after-gavin-shuker-quits-labour-party-1-8816596

Mawbroon

That is why I asked the question and expanded it to All MP's in my post.

I was thinking of MP Fiona Onasanya who was kicked out of Labour before she was found guilty of perjury, convenient. She is now an Independent refusing to allow a bi - election.

Ex Lib Dem MP Stephen Lloyd who ' Resigned the whip' now an Independent.Ex Labour MP Kelvin Hopkins

Ex Labour MP Ivan Lewis who ' Resigned from the Labour Party'

Ex Labour MP Jared O'Mara ' Resigned from the Labour Party'

Ex Labour MP John Woodcock ' Resigned from the Labour Party'

Ex Labour MP Frank Field ' Resigns Labour Whip.'

"The MP (MP Fiona Onasanya) currently sits as an independent in Parliament, having been suspended by the Labour Party after her conviction." From BBC website.

This might interest some.

Every Leave constituency here where the MP voted Remain.

I am in the middle of cooking so haven't checked out Tory defectors Soubry, Allen and Wollaston yet, but I imagine none of the Independent Group would face happy homecomings from the voters in their constituencies.

If they set themselves up as Independent (Remainers) at the next GE, it would give the Remain voters in their constituencies a pro EU candidate (even though we hope Brexit issues have been resolved by then!) I'd like to see the outcome of that.

In any other line of work, if you were appointed because you agreed to endorse certain policies and argue for particular benefits, if you decided not to carry out the employers policies and didn't argue for the benefits outlined by the employer, because you didn't like his regime, the sack would follow.

Much as I admire Labour defectors reacting to Labour leadership and the state of the party, they have effectively removed themselves by vacating the premises in which they work to go and join people who agree with them elsewhere. They say they will not return to the workplace or the job they were appointed to do..

In that case, why are they still being paid?

I'd have relished such flexible terms when I worked!

Apologies, I forgot to leave a link to my post (above) regarding Leave constituencies with Remain MPs.

inews.co.uk/news/politics/every-leave-constituency-with-a-remain-mp/

I agree.. if the candidate I had voted for , based on a manifesto, then resigned from the party but not the MP role I would be very miffed. Sadly I have only once voted for a candidate who was then elected MP! So I have learned to live with political disappointment

Most Remain voting MPs agreed to trigger Article 50. A nod to democracy. Not your Remain MP, Andy.

LUTON SOUTH

Leave vote

MP: Gavin Shuker (Labour)

He did not vote on the issue of Article 50 but supported the remain campaign

Read more at: inews.co.uk/news/politics/every-leave-constituency-with-a-remain-mp/

But do we not all think that a third party (with some clout) would be an improvement to our parliamentary system?

Barry Gardner is proposterous in every interview.

You would think that an MP who deserted their Party would have to face a by -election , but apparently it isn’t so.
When there is a GE of course, they may not get anywhere as their previous Party would then field a new candidate.

Mycat