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Urmstongran Fri 01-Mar-19 09:42:15

Any fellow Leavers who would like to use this thread to post GOOD NEWS (away from Remainer doom & gloom)?

How about this for starters:

Norway’s $1 trillion (£753 billion) sovereign wealth fund – among the world’s most respected investors – has just confirmed it will boost its UK holdings. “Over time, our UK allocation will increase,” said Yngve Slyngstad, the Norwegian Fund’s CEO. “With our 30-year-plus time horizon, current political discussions don’t change our view,” he added, reaffirming his commitment to Britain even in the case of a no-deal Brexit.
This kind of clear-sighted, grown-up analysis contrasts starkly with the endless doom-mongering we get from subsidy-hungry politicos at the CBI. It’s precisely because Britain will thrive after Brexit that we attracted record foreign direct investment last year, beating the US, with only China attracting more. Even British start-ups raised almost £8  billion in venture capital during 2018 – some 70 per cent more than their French and German counterparts.
Boeing has opened its first manufacturing plant in Europe – in Sheffield. Technology-driven investment is piling in – not just to London but to Manchester and the North-East too. And, as Brexit-bashing stories about planes not flying are trumped by reality, investors from China to the Middle East are flocking to a country just judged by Forbes magazine as the “best place in the world to do business” for the second year in a row.
Yes, overseas investors are taking advantage of the weaker pound, which makes UK assets look attractive. But that’s how exchange rates work – which is why Europe’s monetary union is so crippling for many of its members.

Sorry for the long post but I’m not keen on links!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:14:30

Remainers are often quoting the % of voters who chose not to vote did not vote to leave!!

Just a thought they did not vote to remain either!??

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:19:59

urmston

all good news , great fantastic news,

I pray and hope for the WTO no deal, it is the only true Leave...

Treason mayhem is a traitor and her deal is actually remain.
no good.

grin

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:21:01

GG well said, I understand that post, most logical, thank you

flowers

jura2 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:21:16

Many Remainers were not allowed to vote, for one reason or another- many who live abroad- and of course young adults who were too young then. It is now evident that many Leavers have died, and will not have to suffer the consequences of their choice, whereas _even more would not be allowed to vote- and have indeed got no choice but to suffer the negative effect- including loss of free movement, research projects, studying abroad, etc, etc-

jura2 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:23:50

You want to be ruled by unelected pen pushers from Geneva- really? I thought you wanted to get back control?!? Do you want to have your laws and trade conditions dictated by the big guys out there, like Trump, Putin and more? Are you sure that this is good news? Is that getting back control - hurrah alleluja

Greta Wed 06-Mar-19 16:28:07

I have a very clever sister-in-law. She told me just before the Referendum that she was not going to vote. The reason she gave was that she could not be expected to know all the complex issued involved and therefore it was wrong of the government to ask her to make such an important decision.

I wish more people had been as honest as that.

crystaltipps Wed 06-Mar-19 16:32:43

Those who want no deal want to be vassal states of the USA and Russia. Strange that this so called freedom will mean less freedom and economic damage to the U.K. especially the poorer regions which voted leave. Ironic really.

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 16:35:34

no deal is awesome, it is the only true leave.........

flowers

varian Wed 06-Mar-19 18:08:41

Greta your sister-in-law was correct. It was absurd and wrong to ask people to provide a simple yes/no answer to a very complicated question.

Absolutely no-one knew "exactly what they were voting for".

I found out as much as I could, became aware of the many great benefits of EU membership, realised that it would be horrendously complicated and expensive to undo forty years worth of hard won agreements and alignments which guaranteed frictionless trade and, of course, I thought about the insoluble conundrum of the Irish border.

I very much doubt whether most folk even gave it that much consideration, and a lot of people were fooled by lies and years of propaganda by the tabloid press.

However, anyone who has been paying attention to the debate over the last three years will have learned a lot more and, if we do have a People's Vote on the details now before us, I hope that your clever sister-in-law will see that it is right for her to vote for the UK to remain in the EU, rather than settle for the "least-bad brexit".

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 19:10:44

no people's vote

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 19:11:35

out

jura2 Wed 06-Mar-19 21:36:05

over and out andy- oh I wish

Alima Wed 06-Mar-19 21:46:05

Anyone know if there are actual numbers of Leavers who have died to compare with the actual number of Remainers who have died or is it a load of hot air?

MaizieD Wed 06-Mar-19 22:06:16

I should think that the number of, say, over 60s who have died since the referendum is split according to the known percentages of Leave and Remain votes of the over 60s. I presume they would also account for the percentage of over 60s who didn't vote.

I'm not saying that this is actually how it's calculated. Just surmising that this is a likely method.

MaizieD Wed 06-Mar-19 22:09:36

supercalifragilisticexpialdocious

You left an 'i' out, jura wink grin grin

Joelsnan Wed 06-Mar-19 22:31:09

As far as I remember your age was not required on the voting slip, just a cross in the relevant box, so I assume all of the published statistics on voter demographics, age, sex, educational attainment, location is pure guesstimate. No one could say what the number of voters is who have subsequently died because no one can know if they had voted, that is, unless I suppose, someone was posted at each crem. or cemetery to ask the close relatives.

crystaltipps Thu 07-Mar-19 02:53:43

Statistics, which are gathered by official agencies and academic research such as this aren’t a “guestimate” joelsnan they are based on sampling techniques which have to reach a significance level of ( usually) 95% accuracy. Other statistics , such as those you might see in advertising ( e.g. “ 9 out of 10 cats prefer x cat food”) may of course be based on a small or biased samples which may only be revealed in tiny print. People may then just dismiss all statistical evidence as “guesswork”, which is a shame as data gathering and significance testing is an important scientific tool which aids our understanding of many issues.

crystaltipps Thu 07-Mar-19 03:29:07

Another issue, an oncologist on the radio news said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes ( which come from EU) straight after brexit, Drs have been advised by the Government to book fewer people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment. This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment for some patients. I am shocked, but not surprised, that such treatment is being affected. Bet this won’t make a Daily Mail headline.

petra Thu 07-Mar-19 07:08:34

Bet this won't make a Daily Mail headline
If you read the Health section in the DM today I think you'll find it did.

andycameron69 Thu 07-Mar-19 07:19:10

This great country will be independent once again, how exciting. No deal the only way put, thank heavens.

a day closer.

grin

crystaltipps Thu 07-Mar-19 07:48:06

Glad you are happy that cancer patients will have to wait longer for treatment Andy.

andycameron69 Thu 07-Mar-19 07:57:28

the majority voted leave

smile

Ginny42 Thu 07-Mar-19 08:07:54

Andycameron69 Your callous response to an item about the effect of a Government directive to surgeries to book fewer people for cancer diagnosis and treatment is offensive. GN members who may be affected themselves or have family members who may be affected will be justifiably offended.

Shame on you for your very callous,, puerile attitude to the suffering of others and the very real fears that treatment imported from the EU may not be available in sufficient quantities after Brexit. You disgust me.

crystaltipps Thu 07-Mar-19 08:15:24

I think Andy should be ignored and left under his bridge or in his dacha. His moronic meaningless repetitions illustrate the inadequacies of those who think brexit is all marvellous because it won’t affect them.

Urmstongran Thu 07-Mar-19 09:30:13

I for one, do still trust in our government to keep us safe.

This, yesterday:

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: "Leaving the EU with a deal remains the government's top priority.

"As a responsible government we have robust contingency plans in place so patients can continue to have access to medicines, including medical radioisotopes, whatever the EU Exit outcome.

"We have worked with the pharmaceutical industry to ensure that planes are contracted to bring in medical radioisotopes under the appropriate specialist conditions and suppliers are working closely with the NHS to minimise any potential impact of changes to delivery times."

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