Johnson’s Government

Pantglas I think that looking at things rationally has gone out of the window......

Thankyou Pantglass. Yes many people are blinkered, they get a view on something and pride themselves as never wavering, instead of looking at both sides of an argument rationally, but it all depends on the home they come from and those who influence their lives whilst young.

I am very happy to look at rational arguments.

Give me one

But you see don’t you that if the Tory cabinet was charming, clever. Etc. We wouldn’t have those facts to write about.

It’s like the book Animal Farm for some, two legs ((Conservative Cabinet) bad, four legs (Labour front bench)
Good. Simplistic, and irrational.

Still waiting for a good rational argument from you.

I won’t hold my breath

I don't know about "looking at stuff rationally ANY MORE". Many people have always been parochial and tribal.

all I see WWM2 is that you are blinkered in the extreme,
I see problems with various politicians in both major parties, where you only see problems with one side.
It’s a major failing in anyone to do that.

Peony whilst I would also criticise Diane Abbott’s decision, it is not true to say her son went to the ‘most exclusive expensive public school’. City of London is certainly not the most exclusive or expensive independent school in London. One of the problems with the political threads is the inaccurate or misleading statements that are sometimes made. I think it would be fair comment to say that Eton is the most exclusive expensive public school - by comparison City of London is minor league ?

OH, you couldn’t be more wrong lemon .

But tell me lemon where you are critical of the Tory party?

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More criticism.

Beef and lamb sales will fall by 92% post Brexit.

Civil unrest possible.

Oh joy.

It gets better and better.

But mustn’t be chicken licken about it, it is far better to pretend it isn’t happening then we can all be cheerful.

More cheerful news

As a result of the 92% livestock surplus, a mass cull is being planned.

Welcome to the mad house.

More cheerful news

I would advise you get your euros ASAP as the pound is in free fall

This morning at Gatwick it was 87p against the euro.

Parity with the US dollar

Regarding civil unrest, I feel it is coming.

Burqas.......oh how we love a little bit of alliteration....Ban the Burqa.

How many times have women wearing the burqa been a risk to themselves or to others? How many incidences have there been of terrified 4 year olds,care workers in large black robes terrorising old people,doctors and juries struggling to hear women wearing the veil.......??? Nobody knows.
6? 8?

It's a nonsense.

Whitewave, if the ickle animals have to be killed it must mean Boris is a nasty man.

Suzie, , Eton is in Windsor and I should have said Dianes son is at one of the most expensive schools in London, at 25k a year, but that's almost half of Harrows, so she is in fact saving money. People come out of those schools with not only the best education I would want for my children, but as importantly contacts.
Whitewave I am sonsorry your daughter is losing her position in Europe as a Genetic Scientist because of Brexit, , however there are vacancies here, with experienced ones earning round about 100k a year.

So, Johnson has demanded that the Welsh press do not ask any not previously approved questions.

But what could stop them from doing so?

Peony I don’t understand your post at all. It doesn’t matter where Eton is. Diane Abbots son went to City of London School where fees are about £18k - its nowhere near the most expensive day school in London. Fees for Eton are about £42k but that does include boarding of course. Warning- none of this implies that I am not critical of her decision - whether it was the most expensive school or not is irrelevant.

Peonyrose People have known about Diane Abbbot's son's schooling for years. Can't you think of anything else to say about the Labour MPs?

Most of Johnson's cabinet have either been sacked by TM for being incompetent or resigned before being pushed. IMO they are an absolute disgrace and there is nothing positive to be said about any of them

What we know to be true but what they always deny, by Johnson’s special advisor.

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The Tories must be getting rattled. They refused to allow filming of the question session, and would only allow certain of the media to ask pre-agreed questions.

I think Abbot’s son must be near 25 by now, why is that relevant to a critique of Johnson’s government?

Suzie, I only mentioned Eton as I had said London schools. The only reason I mention just one labour politian, there could have been loads more, was in answer to the long list of Whitewaves critisising of Tories, she wasn't bothered if the were current misdeamors and ongoing. I do not applaud bad behaviour either side. I was just pointing out how biased and narrow it was.
There are a band on here who are obviously passionate Labour, regardless of seeing faults, as their leader Jeremy can't. I am not a passionate Tory. I just like things presented unbiased and enjoy rational discussions, so I happily leave you to support each other. If Labour ever want to win, they should look at the faults within and deal with them, but of course they won't as they seem blinkered. Making mistakes is one thing but most people learn from them.

she wasn't bothered if the were current misdeamors and ongoing

As they have all happened in the last two or three years I think they could qualify as 'current'.

Making mistakes is one thing but most people learn from them.

I suspect that the the two formerly sacked government ministers have learned nothing except that in politics nowadays you can be as dishonourable as you like and no-one gives a toss. Including a significant portion of the electorate.