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How long will Boris last?

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trisher Tue 17-Dec-19 21:04:35

As a bit of amusement I was trying to work ut how long Boris will stick at the job of PM. He's not big on commitment. I think he'll want to go down in history as the man who did Brexit, but I don't think he'll wnt to stick around afterwards. I think he'll be getting himself bounced up to the H of Lords once it's done. Anyone else want to guess at how long he'll last?

SirChenjin Wed 18-Dec-19 12:17:56

You have no idea what you just voted for but you voted for it anyway??

In what ways do you think we’re governed by the EU and what sort of voice do you think we have in that? I’m just really curious as to what you understand by our membership of the EU and how you think places like the north will benefit by Brexit.

MerylStreep Wed 18-Dec-19 12:18:21

SirChenjin & Frenchie
If you need to ask why the 2 gentleman in the bedsit voted conservative you really don't understand human nature.
Both of you were probably just as confused when Trump was elected.

suttonJ Wed 18-Dec-19 12:18:22

So much twaddle talked about B's appalling record as London Mayor...remember the millions wasted on the bridge? And the water cannon costing millions, which Khan had to sell off at a loss, as they were no use to anyone.
Labour could do worse than to lie low for a couple of years, and let the s**t show commence. If given half a chance B will try and blame all the resulting mess on Labour, when in reality it must now fall fair and square on his shoulders. Stay out of it, Labour.
What odds on Carrie producing. cute baby, to distract us from all the horrors?

SirChenjin Wed 18-Dec-19 12:21:08

No Meryl I understand perfectly and I feel desperately sorry for them.

endlessstrife Wed 18-Dec-19 12:42:57

You tell me then SirChenjin. As you know, tell me for SURE, the outcome of my vote. What voice do we have in the EU?

Soniah Wed 18-Dec-19 12:47:50

Just don't get ill, fall behind with your rent or have no savings

quEEEniE Wed 18-Dec-19 13:12:12

I have been disappointed with Boris espically over Nazrin , however as long as we get out of Europe l am happy for him to be in power. No more Europeans telling us no!!

Lilyflower Wed 18-Dec-19 13:12:40

Boris has always and only wanted to be PM. He is clearly enjoying it and I don't see him relinquishing power just yet.

Labour seem to be about to pick Rebecca Long Bailey to replace Jeremy Corbyn, who is the Corbynista Mark Two candidate, so when people work this out they could be routed again.

Isn't Einstein's definition of madness doing the same thing over again and hoping for a different outcome? If so, Boris is safe.

Lilyflower Wed 18-Dec-19 13:14:09

Sorry, should read:-

Labour seem to be about to pick Rebecca Long Bailey, who is the Corbynista Mark Two candidate, to replace Jeremy Corbyn, so when people work this out they could be routed again.

varian Wed 18-Dec-19 13:17:24

Do the Labour Party have a death wish?

It would be difficult to think of a worse choice than Rebecca Long-Bailey.

JenniferEccles Wed 18-Dec-19 13:21:22

Boris is aware that the Tory vote from northern people may only be on loan.

To me that is the answer to how long he will remain in power.

Once Brexit is done, if he fails to deliver for those in deprived areas up north, then the next election in 5 years time could be a different story.

Of course there is always the aspect of Labour and it’s leader and policy then.

At the moment they seem to want to cling to the same idiotic policies which lost them this one.

SirChenjin Wed 18-Dec-19 13:27:27

Endless - why does anyone else need to tell you this? Presumably you understand how the EU operates and the UKs position within it?

Firecracker123 Wed 18-Dec-19 13:34:00

He'll last 5 years because of the fixed term parliament and if he fulfills his manifesto promises Labour will never get back in power again. Labour are finished as a party.

SirChenjin Wed 18-Dec-19 13:35:40

He won’t fulfill them and Labour will be back - such is politics.

inkcog Wed 18-Dec-19 13:36:58

*deprived areas up north

It's like one giant Hovis advert here. Trouble at mill.

Oopsminty Wed 18-Dec-19 13:38:26

Labour hasn't been back since Tony Blair was in power

50 odd years and Blair was the only Labour candidate to get victory

Bizarre that Labour are treated as a direct opponent to the Conservatives

The only time they've ever won was when they had a 'I'm Tory Plan B' in charge

Grannyhall29 Wed 18-Dec-19 13:43:52

How long Boris is in charge all depends on who the next Labour leader is, if they pick someone like Emily Thornberry or any of the other Corbynistas then he will be in power for a very long time

SirChenjin Wed 18-Dec-19 13:44:47

They haven’t been back since Gordon Brown actually, not TB, and there were 10 years of a Labour Govt before this current 9 years of a Tory govt, (five of which were under the Tory/Liberal coalition)

purplepatch Wed 18-Dec-19 14:02:06

He is playing a high risk strategy with enshrining the Brexit date in law, banking on the fact that the EU wants a deal as much as the UK. The EU never actually tookMay seriously because of her weak position and underlying Remain belief. Maybe putting the end of 2020 into law will concentrate the EU's mind - or then again maybe not tchgrin

Davidhs Wed 18-Dec-19 14:02:40

Politicians never learn the lessons of history they are so confident of their own diatribe and the flunkies that back them up hang onto their coat tails. Michael Foot made exactly the same mistake, you have to look a “statesman” and have sensible policies to head a government.

During the election results the Labour activists looked visibly shell shocked by the scale of the defeat, they really had been believing their own propaganda. If you really want to get into power just use your brains, elect a credible leader with sensible policies- they probably won’t!.

Saggi Wed 18-Dec-19 14:06:42

Who cares! All as bad as each other!

Davidhs Wed 18-Dec-19 14:17:13

Putting December 2020 into law is not going to influence the EU one jot in fact it may harden their position. The U.K. always had a weak negotiating position, nothing has changed, the EU are not going to allow any cherry-picking, the UK is not going to get any advantage over member states.

That was their position on day one they have not changed, rather that betray their own members they will suffer the consequences of a “no deal”. The current Withdrawl Deal allows for a range of outcomes from a very soft cooperative exit, to a “ no deal “ third country exit with tariffs on everything.

MerylStreep Wed 18-Dec-19 14:26:22

Davidhs
Speaking for myself I don't want us to have any advantage over a member state. I'm happy to go back to pre Maarstrict.

Yehbutnobut Wed 18-Dec-19 14:33:08

MS you were happy to be in the Common Market?

Labaik Wed 18-Dec-19 14:38:30

suttonJ; the cute baby card will be used when the leader of this country [ie Dominic Cummings] thinks the time is right....