M&H didn't let me down.

I wouldn’t know,

Anniebach I doubt that many people who dislike the spite on threads like this are 'Sussex devotees'. I'm not a royalist but I am anti bullying and find gratuitous abuse and nastiness unpleasant and think that it should be called out. There is too much of it and it seems to be getting worse.
She seemed to try very hard and nothing she could do was right. No human being should have had to bear the vitriol that she did in a new Country, a new job, in a new marriage with a toxic family in the background and pregnant or a new mother for much of it.
Try kindness. You might find it makes you feel better in yourself.

Well I don't dislike Meghan. It's gradually being revealed that Harry does have some long-standing mental health problems, and I think it's likely that Meghan is simply concerned for him and wanting to get him in a position where he can get a break from the pressure, so she has made him see it's possible to do that. But it can't be denied that whether by a series of unfortunate coincidences or something else, there have been many times when the Sussex's news has come out at exactly the right time to clash with news from other royals. The fact that it's almost becoming predictable is worrying. Now, whether it's them, or someone else deciding to publish their news at the wrong times, is possible open to doubt. Could they simply have an incompetent press secretary?

Jaycee. Try practising what you preach

What will happen when all these mega rich celebs tire of Harry's speeches about his mental health?

His carbon footprint will make a nonsense of any lectures about global warming and his obsession for privacy won't sit well with Meghan when people no longer care about her desire to change the world.

This is not a 'bashing' comment. It's a genuine concern.

I don't think Diana would have wanted this for him.

Genuine concern my backside. As for Diana - she had her own MH problems.

And exactly Jaycee. I’m not a royalist, but the vitriol aimed at Meghan (and now Harry) needs calling out for the nastiness it is. As someone who isn’t a Royalist I applaud them wanting to fund themselves. If that includes rich bankers paying to hear them speak the. I can’t really see the problem.

That's uncalled for Nezumi

Just because not everyone thinks the same as you there's no need to be rude.

Someone who has a ‘genuine concern’ for Prince Harry doesn’t say: Making a cottage industry out of Diana's death and Harry's subsequent therapy - up to $1 million

But people are rude. Some swear, some hide behind a cloak of seemingly being polite but actually saying vile things.

I don't think anyone here would actually wish harm to come to M&H or be anything other than friendly and supportive to their faces if they met. It should be possible to debate the issues in an objective way - including speculating on the motives of the people involved, provided we all understand it is pure speculation. If this wasn't generally acceptable, most of the newspapers in the world would be banned.

If they were not being financially supported by this country I
couldn’t care less if they want to save the world .

There are people in this country suffering from mental illnesses , children being treated in psychiatric hospitals miles away from their families , young men taking their lives is on the increase , yet we pay for this couples lifestyle and security in America.
America.

That's exactly what I think though Nezumi as well as my follow up post about celebs eventually tiring of the subject. It may have come across as harsh but fame is fickle.

Harry grew up protected by courtiers and sycophants. He's never had to 'compete'. He's out there on his own now surrounded by sycophants who are only in it to make money - out of him.

He has never had to promote himself in order to survive financially. He's lucky to still have Duchy millions to fall back on but it may not last. Didn't the Queen say she would review the situation in a year?

children being treated in psychiatric hospitals miles away from their families

If you genuinely give a damn about this then you would be better off getting things like the Rightful Lives campaign into the news rather than sniping about Prince Harry.

Looks like he’ll be costing us less each year. And maybe talking to the likes of JP Morgan will help. Inpatient mental health care is generating millions of profit for American owned companies and hedge funds - perhaps he could end up encouraging ethical investing.

Video here: vimeo.com/375509472

I found it ironic that Megan and Harry chose to give a speech at an event hosted by JP Morgan.
For 2 people who keep professing their 'wokeness' they are obviously totally unaware that this is one of the banks who shafted the Greeks in the bailout deal ( but made money for the Germans) but also were very instrumental in the financial crash because of their reckless lending ( subprime mortgages)

Nezumi do not , do not ever ask me if i genuinely give a damn .

Perhaps he could end up encouraging ethical spending whilst lining his pockets

I didn’t ask you. I said ‘if’ & I pointed you in the direction of an grassroots collective (for want of a better word) that is doing wonderful things highlighting things like people driving 800 miles to visit their child.

A friend's son worked for J P Morgan MerylStreep
He became astonishingly rich at a very young age in a very short time!
Presumably his work earning huge bonuses was totally woke and ethical.

However, the firm has attracted such descriptions as most corrupt?, unethical, cutthroat capitalist, unethical monstrosity
(Not my own words, you understand.)

However, if they do a bit for charity that makes it all OK.

It’s not really about charity- the ethics around allowing hedge funds etc to profit from NHS services needs to change dramatically. Organisations such a JP Morgan have the power to change things, but I doubt they’ll ever have the motivation.

I doubt Harry will make any difference at all, I doubt he even understands the issues for the average person with a severe mental health need, however, talking about mental health may be healthier - rather than the never talking about it approach of previous generations.

This is rather a side alley from people being vile about him though. I couldn’t really care less who he talks to or how he becomes financially independent. If it’s the first step to a smaller, working monarchy that would be a good thing.

In doing this he is hopefully separating his children from the crown so that they can have a real job and not have quite the same media intrusion as the York girls.

Callistemon
No disrespect to Megan and Harry but I doubt very much that either of these issues ( subprime mortgages & the Greek bailout) ever came close to them, as it didn't for many ☹️

No, they may not have heard of sub-prime mortgages, after all I doubt Harry knows the word mortgage or what it is.
But surely they or their advisors must have been aware of the controversies surrounding this firm?

If you are seeking charitable funds perhaps turning a blind eye is sometimes necessary?
I don't know

Nezemi I didn’t need pointing in any direction , so point your finger else where.

Nezumi I agree with much of what you say but I think they need to be careful that they do not get their names associated with unethical concerns and businessss in the pursuit of independence.
After all, they are supposedly an ethically minded couple.

Well I agree with that callistemon -although if they are going for the big business money (which makes sense in terms of generating large amounts of cash) then the ethics are always going to be dodgy in some area or another. Unfortunately there aren’t many banks of large corporates that put people before profit (maybe google? I don’t know they seem to value employees, not sure about their wider business practice or privacy values etc).

I don't think H was surrounded by sycophants whilst he was in the military or in Africa.