Deported to Jamaica before Windrush report

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They are not all violent criminals either. Drug offences years ago, judgement given, time served and now they are criminalised again. I have a friend whose eldest child was born in S Africa. If they are guilty of a driving offence will they be deported? No! Why not? Because they are white!

NO Trisher, they will not be deported because people aren’t deported for driving offences.

The people I have heard of on the news haven't committed rape, murder or other such crimes. For example, one, here from age 4, stole a mobile phone at age 17, another here as a child was jailed for doing drugs. They spent more than 4 years in jail, in some cases over 10 years ago. No further arrests, and now married with children of their own.
Please remember these young men are black. Check what the same jail sentence would be for a white person, might well be less than 4 years.
The only homes they know are here, there is no-one they know in Jamaica.
The rules have been changed more than once by the Home Office to exclude as many as possible. This is a scandal.
And claiming they are all rapists or murderers is a lie.

Maddyone: NO Trisher, they will not be deported because people aren’t deported for driving offences.

Yet. :-(

Stealing a phone is nothing like murder or rape. Absolutely nothing.
I stole a Mars Bar once. Perhaps that makes me a criminal.

I agree with quizqueen Tue 11-Feb-20 10:07:03
maddyone Tue 11-Feb-20 10:55:49

Ooooh Greymar, how very naughty In fairness, you were a child, I’m sure of that.
However, you’re right, murder and rape are very serious crimes, as are manslaughter and drug dealing. We really do not need people who break these laws to remain resident in the UK when they are not even citizens of the UK.

But one of those involved served in the forces before his life spiralled downwards. I am trying to get some hard facts but surely this country can't deport somebody for stealing a phone?

The Home Office said that under the UK Borders Act 2007, a deportation order must be made where a foreign national has been convicted of an offence and received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more.

Lots of EU criminals here let's hope they will be sent packing as well.

Apparently all the ones removed from the country had been in prison. That takes some doing these days - probation, first offence, says sorry etc.

A 17y old does not go to prison (expensive punishment) for just stealing a mobile phone. Sorry, I don’t buy it!

Apparently all the ones removed from the country had been in prison. That takes some doing these days if youre white.

If youre black youre less likely to just get a rap on the knuckles.

I do think that if a person has served in the Armed Forces, then we owe them really. They should not be deported.
I don’t think anyone should be deported for stealing a mobile phone, my opinion only.

They had all served prison sentences, and as has already been stated, that doesn’t happen in a lot of cases.

We are constantly being told that our prisons are overcrowded, so the judiciary is under a certain amount of pressure to only hand out custodial sentences for more serious crimes.

That is why I believe the decision to deport them was correct.

I agree JenniferE that those who were deported should have been because it was reported that they had committed serious crimes such as rape. However, I also think we have a duty of care towards those who have served in the Armed Forces, and even if they are not citizens, their cases should be looked at separately.
I feel sure that no one has been deported just for stealing a mobile phone. Just one crime of stealing one mobile phone, no, I don’t think that has happened.

'The Home Office said that under the UK Borders Act 2007, a deportation order must be made where a foreign national has been convicted of an offence and received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more'...
...does that mean we didn't have to leave the EU to have control of our borders then?

I’m not sure that the EU has anything to do with this really.

Apparently those deemed for deportation, had been awarded between them prison sentences of 300 years. These must have been either some serious offences or some repeat offenders.

When are we going to deport Boris Johnston? Born abroad and guilty as hell of the death of thousands due to his governments policies on the sick,disabled and poor .I think he should be on the next plane out ,in fact I'm not sure he should have been allowed to stand as an MP never mind aPM ...given his awful record,encitement to violence with statetments against muslims ,blacks , SCOTS!! I'll happily escort him to the airport and makesure he gets on his flight and stays away

paddyanne
He must have worked fast...he has only effectively led a government since 12th December 2019.
I would suggest Cameron and George Osborne more culpable.

Paddyanne, despite BJ being born abroad, New York I think, he definitely is a British citizen, and therefore were he to be convicted of a prisonable offence in Britain, he would be incarcerated in a British prison rather deported.
I admire your sense of fun though, your post made me smile.

admitted Class A drugs too.

Without knowing the details of all the offences deemed to justify deportation, some, at least, were prosecuted and served their sentences several years ago. Why have they only just been detained for deportation? Why not deport them once they've served their time?

It surely cannot be that the Home Office has been ordered to trawl back for a number of years and catch as many non-national ex offenders as they can, so as to shine up this government's Law & Order credentials?

Johnson gave up his USA citizenship in 2016

I have signed the petition, this is a disgrace. Lives and families have been ruined.