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Is Johnson getting bored?

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Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 13:42:50

It occurred to me yesterday that we have seen little of the PM in recent days. Not as if anything much is happening, what with serious flooding, an international health crisis and now the stock markets in freefall. I wondered if perhaps he is getting bored with the tedium of being PM? Before this weeks PMQs he has not been seen in public for 12 days. Perhaps is OK for him to be holed up in Chequers over the weekend? What do you think??

Urmstongran Fri 28-Feb-20 19:04:40

You didn’t used to enjoy my posts sw you’ve always shot me down! Long may it continue- that’s what debate is all about.

I’m not a Boris devotee. I voted for him because he promised to Get Brexit Done (when no one else did - ha! Jo Swinson even promised to cancel the result of the referendum) so it was Hobson’s for me really.

I’m prepared to see how he does in his term of office. And vote accordingly next time (if I’m around - one shouldn’t assume).

In the meantime:

Latest ComRes poll on Westminster voting intentions: CON 47% (+2) LAB 31% (-2).

Seems there’s a lot of folk like me tonight.

jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 19:20:22

Blimey Urm, you could have fooled me, fooled us all indeed

''I’m not a Boris devotee.''

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:20:52

A lot, yes - but the majority of the 1500-odd surveyed still have the common sense they were born with, thankfully smile. Interestingly - but not surprisingly, the majority of Tory voters are over 55. Tick tock.

Urmstongran Fri 28-Feb-20 19:25:08

Tick tock. what a horrible comment SirChenjin you disappoint me.
?

jura2 Boris and his team are doing everything right this time in their negotiations on Brexit. That’s why I’m happy with him (for now at least - see my other comment re Hobson’s).

Boris is what happens when there's no competent opposition.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:29:08

Oh dear - I do hope you recover from your disappointment Urm sad

The tick tick was actually aimed at the Tory party based on the breakdown of the votes taken from the ComRes survey you mentioned, but I can see why it would suit you to jump to other conclusions in your disappointed state.

suziewoozie Fri 28-Feb-20 19:29:22

Not a horrible comment but a statement of fact. But then you’re not keen on facts are you Urm just propaganda.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:33:53

Think of it as super forecasting smile

Daisymae Fri 28-Feb-20 19:40:25

Heard Johnson on the radio tonight - he said we should wash our hands! Good to know that he's on the ball.......

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 19:45:27

Oh thank god - we can all sleep soundly now. NHS bosses and consultants must be so grateful for this advice. Three cheers for Boris!

jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 19:48:32

aping Trump- yet again.

Urmstongran Fri 28-Feb-20 20:00:09

In the words of Ken Livingstone, "Whatever you may think of Boris, make no mistake, he is the most formidable political opponent out there in British politics."

Then, think on, he was on the right side of history over BREXIT (when so many were not) and he led the highly successful Leave campaign to victory.

jura2 Fri 28-Feb-20 20:06:24

He did indeed...

then WHAT?

GagaJo Fri 28-Feb-20 20:14:45

Led. Pfft.

SirChenjin Fri 28-Feb-20 20:17:05

Yes that’s right Urm - in 2008 Ken Livingstone did indeed say that about BJ in the run up to the mayoral contest. He then went on to say that he thought the contest would be “a close fight because Johnson's talents were suited to the celebrity age. "This is sadly no longer the world of 20 years ago, of serious political debate. It's all about celebrity," and then “I can imagine more people will be watching Big Brother than will ever watch political programmes any more, and someone who turns up and tells good jokes is formidable”. Ken Livingstone then attacked BJs policies.

You can read what KL actually said here www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2008/feb/15/livingstone.johnson

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Feb-20 20:34:30

I am happier with a government working on their briefs as opposed to courting publicity at every available opportunity.

MaizieD Fri 28-Feb-20 20:49:25

I'm sure we all like to think that they are working away like little beavers, but that is not the reason they've been ordered not to have anything to do with the media (unless given permission, and a script, of course). Too many embarrassingly contradictory interviews in the early days.

This has led to the outrageous decision of the BBC to stand down a Labour MP booked to appear on R4 Any Questions this evening 'because no tory MP would take part'. If the tories choose no to subject themselves to public scrutiny there is no earthly reason why opposition MPs should be silenced.

twitter.com/AndyMcDonaldMP/status/1233429546034225152

MaizieD Fri 28-Feb-20 20:52:35

As to 'courting publicity', what rubbish!

The public has every right to know what is happening in government, MPs hiding themselves away to avoid scrutiny is not a good look.

Greymar Fri 28-Feb-20 20:55:28

Even the ones, throughout the years, I didn't like were better than absolutely nothing. Surely we need some sort of lead on flooding and Corona quickly?

Barmeyoldbat Fri 28-Feb-20 21:03:12

What I can't understand is why he hasn't declared the flooding a national emergency, or have I missed something. He said today that the virus was a priority, goody, goody, and that we should all wash our hands but not a word about the flooding. I don't think he has a clue and is out of his depth. I also read somewhere, can't remember where but it wasn't the Mail that his plan to even up the country is not now possible. Will try to think where I saw it.

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 21:46:41

He will be judged on how much he evens up the country. Putting the Brexit fiasco to one side for the moment, people who wouldn't normally voted Conservative wanted a change. They've seen that local and national government hasn't stopped the loss of jobs and boarded up shops etc. They've seen a rise in crime, difficulties in getting GP appointments, etc. They believe local government is at fault, whereas the truth is that 10 years of Conservative government has cut local government funding.

I'm sure we'll have all sorts of PR exercises in five years time, but most people really aren't that stupid. My feeling is that it won't be so much about the Conservatives, but whether the Labour Party can produce a credible narrative. If it can't, people will continue to vote Conservative.

growstuff Fri 28-Feb-20 21:49:26

Barmeyoldbat Oh, I can understand it. He doesn't care. He's PM and has an advisor to tell him how to maintain his popularity. That's all he cares about.

Callistemon Fri 28-Feb-20 21:53:29

Is he self-isolating?
Hope he has plenty of supplies.

Callistemon Fri 28-Feb-20 22:00:11

Barmeyoldbat I don't know either, because it's getting worse, not better. And is due to worsen now with Jorge.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 28-Feb-20 22:17:46

Growstuff, I just feel that any Labour leader other than JC must be better than Boris and I just hope to goodness that come the next election the country will see this. Mind you people have short memories and if he comes up with some good news just before an election then he could be in again. We will just have to wait and hope he doesn't muck the country up to much.

pinkquartz Fri 28-Feb-20 22:20:29

He looks clueless.
He can't have much longer left.