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Why do far right protesters Attack the police?

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vegansrock Sat 13-Jun-20 17:51:39

One would have thought that far right protesters would not be anti police. Why can’t they have a peaceful protest?

Starblaze Sun 14-Jun-20 00:13:37

I happened across an image of a protester fiercely protecting historical monuments.... Peeing on said monument. I can't imagine that the monument is the important thing in his mind.

Dollymc2 Sun 14-Jun-20 00:31:06

So a member of these neanderthals, decided to urinate on PC Keith Palmer,s memorial
I am beyond disgusted

paddyanne Sun 14-Jun-20 00:47:33

picture of a group of these wonderful men who want to save statues on FB ,one in a bikini who had peed himself and one carrying a flag that had Britain spelled wrongly on it...couldn't make it up could you.
If this is the best their organisation can offer we're all in deep do do

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 06:12:51

Who thought it a good idea to “defend” Churchill’s statue by giving nazi salutes? They weren’t defending it from anyone as the anti racist demo had been the day before. True scum.

Riverwalk Sun 14-Jun-20 06:46:07

The irony of a nazi salute at Churchill's statue - they really are thick!

Urmstongran Sun 14-Jun-20 07:45:48

I don’t think the Police should have taken ‘the knee’. It sent out a solidarity message - a political one. They are there to uphold law and order. No more, no less.

As individuals they can do whatever they like when not in uniform.

I wonder, if it got out of hand and the army were sent in to assist, would any of them take ‘the knee’? I think not.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 14-Jun-20 07:48:56

The last time those thugs were out in number was before the election chanting Johnsons name.

He didn’t distance himself from them then, and he hasn’t done so yet.

Furret Sun 14-Jun-20 08:03:33

The sharp contrast between the BLM supporters standing in quiet dignified protest and these Neanderthal thugs says it all.

The first have a genuine message they wish to get across.

The second are looking for a confrontation.

Gajahgran Sun 14-Jun-20 08:07:02

Unfortunately violence will always bring more violence. I don't think it was priveledged lives these young men had that made them so angry. Perhaps we should look at the root cause and not be so judgemental. I am not just talking about white men I am talking about all young men who grow up in adverse circumstances they are powerless to change.

Davidhs Sun 14-Jun-20 08:31:37

Leftist protestors would call the police fascists for trying to keep order, in exactly the same way. So the police get it from any angry mob, it does not matter, the police are preventing the from doing what they want. Supporters of BLM have attacked police and done criminal damage as well.

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:02:39

do two wrongs make a right?

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:12:09

I can't believe people are defending this mob.sick.

Sparklefizz Sun 14-Jun-20 09:19:43

There have always been people wanting to cause fights and trouble and attacking the police. Teddyboys, Mods and Rockers, etc back in the day. They jump onto a cause. Doesn't matter if they truly support it. They were Rent-a-Mob.

My ex husband was a police officer in the 60s through to the 90s. I know what he had to deal with.

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 09:20:21

Unfortunaetly, I can believe it. Racism and xenophobia weren't born overnight.

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:24:19

So they weren't really racists then sparklefizz?

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 09:31:16

It's always useful to have a pool of thugs like that, as Mosley and Roehm found out.

Davidhs Sun 14-Jun-20 09:56:20

The reality is in any disorder there are male or female, black or white that get aggressive and take it out on the police, it might be BLM, animal rights, anti abortion and a long list of other issues. Trouble makers are always labeled Rent a Mob quite often demonstrators are bussed in I doubt any are actually paid, they are certainly idiots that don’t like the police.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jun-20 09:57:19

A 28 year old man from Essex has been arrested for urinating
next to the memorial of P.C. Palmer

25Avalon Sun 14-Jun-20 10:07:05

So the police weren’t under attack when bicycles and bollards were chucked at them during the BML protests last week? In times of social distancing no gatherings should be allowed to take place so one lot get away with it and then another lot wade in the following week some of whom genuinely want to protect memorials etc and some who were just spoiling for a fight. Law and order needs to be applied to all. I foresaw there would be action in response to statues being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing. Apply the law to all of them.

Sparklefizz Sun 14-Jun-20 10:13:30

vegansrock So they weren't really racists then sparklefizz?

I have no idea. I am just saying that a lot of thugs who want a fight will jump on any bandwagon that's going.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Jun-20 10:14:03

Violence and thuggery directed towards our Police Force is totally unacceptable.

6 Policemen were injured yesterday

62 Policemen were injured last Weekend along with two Police horses.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jun-20 10:14:44

I agree 25Avalon

I wish what happened yesterday could be discussed calmly .

Callistemon Sun 14-Jun-20 10:29:05

Apply the law to all of them

I agree.
We have only been out once for months and, if we travelled just a mile from home, risk being stopped by the police and quizzed on where and how far we are going.

The country seems to be divided into two. Those who are essential workers, together with those obeying the rules, self-distancing, not travelling far, trying to protect the NHS and those who flout the rules whether for their own selfish pleasures or to go out on to the streets to protest for whatever reason.

Maggiemaybe Sun 14-Jun-20 10:38:49

27 unarmed police officers were injured at the peaceful protests in London last week (at least two seriously). I’ve seen no mention at all on news reports of how they’re recovering or of how many have been hurt this weekend, but from the photos I’ve seen it’s obvious that the numbers will be much higher.

They don’t matter, to the thugs who’d attack anyone who stopped them having their fun, or to the many on social media who at best casually condemn all police officers as brutal and/or racist and at worst call for more attacks on them. They’re despised for being weak when they hold back for fear of exacerbating a situation, condemned when they go in strongly. They’re society’s whipping boys (and girls), and I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone chooses to join their ranks. It’s certainly not for the pay, the hours, the fun or the respect from the general public.

For those in my family, it’s because they genuinely want to make a difference. I’m very proud of them, but after the experiences they’ve had, I wish they’d chosen easier ways of doing it.

MaizieD Sun 14-Jun-20 10:49:27

I foresaw there would be action in response to statues being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing.

Is this the sort of 'calm discussion' you want to see, Annie?

25Avalon's statement here is certainly correct in that the far right organised themselves to get to London to 'defend' statues from possible 'assault' by BLM protestors. (Let's not get into detail about how very minimal that 'assault' actually was and how some commentators have noted that grafittiing statues is commonplace during 'protests'). Being far right they don't believe that lor'n order is sufficiently well exercised in Ingerland. So they're coming to do the job they think the police won't do. I'm finding all this quite understandable up to this point.

So they get to London, discover that BLM protest has been cancelled (was actually held the night before; if they'd watched the news they'd have known their mission was pointless, but they still turned up) and they have no function.

So why did they attack the police? Why didn't they just go home, or have a picnic in the park?

While typing this I have developed a theory and the second part of 25Avalon's question seems to support it. ..being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing. I think they attacked the police because they are angry that the police aren't doing the job they want them to do, which is, basically, to reproduce US policing techniques and hit all non white people hard... Looking at some of their twitter timelines I find that they really do believe that the police are soft on coloured people and that they, the whites, are victimised by the police.