Today's PMQs- Johnson deflecting questions as usual.

He's so pleased with himself for destroying the Scottish economy ....asshole.He may have done himself more damage than he'll do to us. I am so surprised you all find it funny.....not.You're on the same route and he doesn't give a flying fig .
makes my blood boil that this clown has any power over us ...hopefully not for long

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Lemongrove he said “One thing of particular interest to the people of Scotland is that they will become the proud possessors of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of fish, shellfish, crustaceans. I don’t know if Nicola is a keen fish eater but she will have more than she could possibly consume herself for a very very long time to come. So how about that?!”

25Avalon

Loved his answer about his present for Nicola Sturgeon.

What was it Avalon ? ?

But Trumpism?

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They will think they are being honest Maizie but like I said up thread I know through experience (having worked with all parties) that they lie/bend the truth, so would I believe it - no. Whether I'm right though who's to say and there will be plenty who do believe it. As for a new direction in campaign thinking then all the parties are quick to jump on any bandwagon they think will get them the votes - not always the right one though.

Nice politician's answer, Spinnaker

The question I asked was, were Wellingborough tories being honest in their advice by just articulating what has always happened but has been unspoken, , or is their advice the start of a new direction in campaign thinking?

Rest assured Maisie I'm no expert just been around a long time. Re the Wellingborough news - like most things in politics it depends who's reading it and how they apply their own thought process to it and depends on which side of the fence they sit. Personally, I like to make my own choice in how I think, rather then be "advised" - if you get my drift

P.S As a bit of an expert, Spinnaker, what do you think about the Wellingborough constituency tory party advice to candidates to be Trump like? Breathtaking honesty or a new direction?

(Genuine question, BTW)

No, I 'think' that 'lie' is correct.

You lay an egg or the table, but not usually yourself...

Lie means “to be in a horizontal or resting position on something (a bed or the ground) or to get into that position.” Lay means “to put something down.”

thewritelife.com/lay-vs-lie/

I don't mind politicians 'bending' the truth, you expect them to put the most advantageous spin on things; but outright lies are a different matter; they speak of contempt for the public and someone not to be trusted.

I've worked in politics for a long time and I can tell you, yes they all lie/bend the truth to suit. There's a saying round these parts that politicians couldn't lie straight in bed .
By the way, before I get corrected by the pedants I know it should be lay in bed, not lie

The problem with lies now is that a lie can spread from one end of the world to another in seconds now.

Loved his answer about his present for Nicola Sturgeon.

Everyone lies. This does not mean that there are not many politicians trying to do the right thing, driven by a desire to make things better for people, johnson isnt one of those in my view.

I'm unconvinced that "all politicians lie" is a defence of Johnson. He not only lies, he never answers the bloody questions - because he can't without making himself look a complete t*sser who cannot justify his own poor decisions. Some might think it acceptable for our leaders to lie, but I would think most don't.

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More Brexit good cheer. I guess this will just be the start of loosening regulations. www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/15/facebook-move-uk-users-california-eu-privacy-laws?fbclid=IwAR24cl2d-M1w9tyDsP7VzAnK78Qe4ZI3FFpRJqO4OdH_FaYFImzBv3j3tvw

It was Jeremy Vine with the Boris story - here: reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/

The SHARK part of the story is a little too relevant to today!!

I don’t think he can change the rules as they’ve been agreed by all 4 countries. But he can stress that just because something is allowed it doesn’t mean it’s a sensible thing to do.

He's missing he who pulled his strings. The mouthpiece, DC.

Pantglas 2, that was my first real laugh today,
Thank you

Septimia

All politicians deflect questions all the time. So what's new?

I don't altogether disagree with this, but it's really no reason not to push for an expectation that they are routinely called to account and made to explain the reasons for what they've said not turning out to be the case.

I get a bit fed up with hearing bad behaviour excused because 'everyone does it'. It's not good enough, really - we should aim higher than that.

Then you wouldn’t last long in politics MayBee

It isn’t a waste of time when you have a top barrister asking the questions. And I’ll never accept the ‘all politicians lie’ arguement. It doesn’t matter which party they belong to. I was brought up not to lie and I assume others should have the same standards, especially those in high office.

Depressing isn’t it?

But I honestly feel there is hope. I’m sure the Tory worm is turning snd the one nation Tories are beginning to think they’ve had enough of nationalist populism, there are certainly rumblings, but how much spine they have? Time will tell.