Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

It probably won't be long before someone comes on here to tell you that their supermarket shelves are groaning.

Apparently M & S have cancelled Christmas because they can't get the stuff.

Dinahmo

It probably won't be long before someone comes on here to tell you that their supermarket shelves are groaning.

Apparently M & S have cancelled Christmas because they can't get the stuff.

Maybe they'll get the staff to dress up as the Grinch!

PippaZ

Chickens coming home to roost.

Now will those who voted to leave tell us what economic good they expected to come from it?

Chickens? Nah! Even they've gone home.

M&S closing in France and blaming Brexit.

There is an enormous amount of food being wasted in the South East and composted.

Lack of staff at all levels from pickers to packers etc.

Brexit would you believe.

Bloody disgraceful.

EUs trade surplus with UK first 7 months 2021, ie post Brexit trade deal, was €82.1bn, notably up from same months in 2020, €56.7bn
Driven by 17.1% or €16bn fall in UK exports to EU.
Trade into EU from every other major partner up.
EU exports to UK grew by 6.2%, or €9bn.
So it s a plus for ten EU, a minus for U.K., surprise surprise!

Can anyone do a link to Sir Roger Gales question to the PM at PMQT on Wednesday where he points out that crops are rotting in the fields and we need workers from abroad to pick and deliver them. He makes out it is due to covid but is actually referring to brexit. The PM and the people around him were shell shocked by it! They really weren’t expecting it. Johnson said they had future plans but didn’t say what they were or what they were going to do to alleviate the problem now.

Is this any help, Maybee?

twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1438104915054927876

That’s it. Thanks Maizie. I must write and thank him.

Another producer of an iconic British product, Stilton cheese, falls victim to Brexit

"We were promised the frictionless deal, that trade would continue exactly as it had before, and it was all complete and utter lies because what we’re seeing is the total and utter opposite of that," says Abigail's father, Hartington's director Simon Spurrell.

The company's European business, he adds, has been "completely and utterly wiped out". The new costs -- at £180 (€210) per certificate, per destination -- are unaffordable.

www.euronews.com/2021/09/17/cheesed-off-brexit-blues-wipe-out-uk-cheesemaker-s-european-business

Johnson has been on the news a couple of times today saying how great it is that we’ve got some sort of deal with America about beef. And whiskey ( isn’t that Scottish?). So much for the great free trade deal we’d have with America if we left the EU. The one that Obama said was unlikely to happen but was then criticised for poking his nose in our political affairs. Interesting that, when Beth Rigby interviewed him, he constantly talked over her but, when interviewed by a man he didn’t interrupt him….( going well, isn’t it….)

I think Johnson has conceded that the much promised trade deal with the US post Brexit isn’t going to happen any time soon. Good. We aren’t going to be flooded with cheap low welfare meat from the US. I thought one of the selling points of Brexit was the ability to strike all these tailor made trade deals around the world and not just have those brokered by the EU? Now we are scrambling around trying to join other trading blocs in the far east which will broker trade for us, and unlike being in the EU we will have had no say. Johnson was a national embarrassment on US TV - scruffy, mumbling, ummming and eerrring. He looked totally out of his depth at the UN. Pity he didn’t reshuffle himself last week.

Yes Biden has made it clear that there will be no deal.

Almost certainly over Ireland and Brexit although the press won’t be reporting that.

Whitewavemark2

Yes Biden has made it clear that there will be no deal.

Almost certainly over Ireland and Brexit although the press won’t be reporting that.

Well it’s on GMB

British business will be at such a disadvantage compared to the EU businesses.

Never mind we can sell cheese to Mexico.

Clear warning given to Johnson over NI by Biden.

The chances of a quick deal died when Biden won the presidency. This really isn't ground breaking news.

Biden is no fan of the UK and has previously described Boris Johnson as a 'clone of Donald Trump'.

Biden once told the BBC he was Irish, which means he has little sympathy for Northern Ireland still being part of the British Empire (as he sees it).

Americans, and Democrats in particular, do not understand that the EU is not a democratic institution like the United States, but is instead run by unelected officials.

Obama, who removed the bust of Churchill from the Oval Office, warned the UK that we would go to the back of the queue if we dared to leave the EU. Now, Biden is simply following the same line.

Biden's blundering exit from Afghanistan without coordinating with his allies shows he has zero respect for the UK. Boris should not waste his time.

Maybe POTUS should sort his own borders out (Mexico there are videos online showing US border force/police on horseback charging men, women and children seeking refuge) before pontificating on the U.K.’s borders?

It's about time we learned that there is no special relationship with the US.

Biden's blundering exit from Afghanistan without coordinating with his allies shows he has zero respect for the UK. Boris should not waste his time.

But he had to try to get a trade deal from the US. Even though it wouldn't in any way compensate for the loss of EU trade the optics would look god and the UK isn't going to get anything as big from all the other little deals it might get.

I really don't know why people think that the UK has any sort of clout when it is just a small market with not a great deal to offer other countries.

Of course, there is an excellent market right on our doorstep ...

Urmstongran I expect you realise that the US is already the UK's biggest single export market. Johnson was hoping to capitalise on that. Where do you suggest he seeks new export markets and trading partners?

Just to save everyone time can I just draft the standard Brexiter argument then they can cut and paste it:

"It's all everyone else fault because they don't like us. If only they had realised that all they need do was to agree to all of our terms everything would be OK"

GrannyGravy13

Maybe POTUS should sort his own borders out (Mexico there are videos online showing US border force/police on horseback charging men, women and children seeking refuge) before pontificating on the U.K.’s borders?

Maybe he should, but that's none of our business.

OTOH, the US was a key player in procuring the GFA and there are a lot of voters in the US of Irish descent who have, historically, no cause to love the British.

Just tell me why the UK should have any clout at all with the US? WE have destroyed our link with the EU, which was valued by the US, we have little to offer them as an ally in the way a military resources, though we do very kindly but our nuclear missies from them (was Johnson's plan to increase out nuclear arsenal and attempt to sweeten relationships or provide some economic leverage, I wonder) and we are not a massively important market (and by the time the tories have finished with their austerity plans there will be even less money around)

growstuff

Urmstongran I expect you realise that the US is already the UK's biggest single export market. Johnson was hoping to capitalise on that. Where do you suggest he seeks new export markets and trading partners?

Quite...

It's Unicorns and have cake and eat it all over again. Just how far divorced from reality can these Brexiters get?