I have just about had enough of these contradictory covid19 regulations.

Please stop looking at this through some kind of blitz spirit rose tinted glasses. This imaginary “community spirit “ no longer exists and hasn’t done since Margaret Thatcher claimed that there was “no such thing”. We may mourn the loss of this but we have to accept its demise. We have all approached this pandemic from different places and with different priorities. Mine have been to stay as healthy as possible as I believe that we all have a personal responsibility to do this throughout our lives. Other people have different priorities.
All this judgemental moral virtues signalling is not healthy and I despair about the future and the divisions this has caused between people. But if I read or hear one more time statements like……I saw my friend ……socially distanced of course……I will scream……it really isn’t necessary and to be honest I doubt that most of us care whether you were or weren’t socially distanced. It really isn’t necessary.

Indeed that is the problem - that it is not being done together. That is where it has all fallen down. But doing this together is the only way out.

We cannot have people:
- making up their own rules and using their "common sense."
- in mass get-togethers - not only do these run the risk of increasing spread (and opening up the opportunities for the virus to mutate), but they make the rules appear to be nonsense, when they are not.

There is no room for selfishness here.

Oh heavens - no virtue signalling here. I would do anything to have this all come to an end.

If I am virtue signalling, then there are those who are non-virtue signalling and seem to think it is something to be proud of.

There are things that are necessary; things that we all wish were not; but they are unfortunately. The longer people refuse to grasp this and act out of pure self-interest, the longer we will all be stuck with this.

There is no room for selfishness here.

Too late for that love! The selfishness began just 7 weeks into the pandemic when Cummings stuck 2 fingers up at the rest of us and did exactly what he wanted by buggering off to Bernard Castle! There's hardly been a week go by since that hasn't had double standards and duplicity by those who happily dished out the rules, but failed to follow them themselves.
I've stuck to every law and rule that's been asked of me. Kept away from my DC and GC, worn a mask, not been in enclosed public areas unless absolutely necessary, met with friends out of doors only. No more. What's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander. I'm off! You carry on if you want to.

Luckygirl

It's all me, me, me.

We get through this pandemic TOGETHER.

It's all me, me, me.
Yes, it is for the elite whoever they may be, Luckygirl

We are not all in this TOGETHER and that becomes more apparent by the day.

Want to watch sport?
Fine, as long as it's a Euros match with unquarantined VIPs in the stadium and you can sing, hug and kiss anyone sitting near you.

Want to watch your DGC in the school relay race in a field in the open air self-distanced from other parents and grandparents?
Sorry, it's Against The Roolz.

There is no room for selfishness here.

Please tell that to those who are displaying that trait.

I have abided by the rules, MissChateline as have my family.

However, seeing so many in the public eye blatantly disregarding them or skirting them as exceptional cases is infuriating.

Kali2

well there is no answer to that ...

God help us.

God help us
Precisely, with this lot in charge - their attitude being 'rules are only for the little people'.

Kali2

''Yes, I think as long as people keep hearing "Do as I say and not as I do" they will be increasingly frustrated.''

of course they are going to be frustrated- we are all going to be really frustrated and more- angry, really *issed off.

But allowing ourselves to drop all common sense and scientific facts and statistics, and taking daft risks, just out of 'frustration' - is going to help no-one. We are at a difficult cross-roads now in this pandemic- and we all have some responsibility to what happens next- throwing all caution to the wind because we are 'frustrated with this Government's behaviour, would be more than childish- blatantly stupid. Last thing we need is to be back in lockdown by this autumn.

I certainly wouldn't be travelling, that's for sure.

All very well thinking you may be fine in your own car travelling hundreds of miles across Europe etc but what if you break down? Even with both vaccinations I would be wary visiting family in France at all this year.

The us and them principle is why we are where we are - and why MH should have been sacked on the spot.

The government has got to stop making exceptions - it is just feeding those who do not understand the science and feel their own common sense will suffice.

It beggars belief that the government cannot grasp that allowing large gatherings causes pain to those who could not be with a loved one as they died.

Exactly Luckygirl, it does beggar belief doesn't it. That's why I'm not believing it any more.

Kali2

well there is no answer to that ...

God help us.

Unfortunately, I don't believe in God, so I don't think there is any supernatural help. I agree. While people have attitudes like that, we're in for the long haul.

Callistemon

I have abided by the rules, MissChateline as have my family.

However, seeing so many in the public eye blatantly disregarding them or skirting them as exceptional cases is infuriating.

I find (have found) much that those in the public eye do infuriating (and more). It makes no difference. I'll carry on reading the science and statistics from reliable resources and do what's right for me and others. There's no reason to stoop to the low level of others.

The mistakes of this government are what is contributing to the idea among non-scientists that they know best and what they want to do is what is best to do.

We are indeed in it for the long haul.

growstuff

Kali2

well there is no answer to that ...

God help us.

Unfortunately, I don't believe in God, so I don't think there is any supernatural help. I agree. While people have attitudes like that, we're in for the long haul.

neither do I btw!

Maybe brain fog hasn't helped but I have completely lost the plot on what the regulations so I am now just going about my business as normal but wearing a mask. One rule for us and another for this government and their cronies.

growstuff if it was Mr and Mrs DoWhatYouLike along the road, fair enough, just avoid them, take care.

There's no reason to stoop to the low level of others.

When there are separate rules for those in charge, VIPs, politicians and celebrities it is fair enough to question why?

WHY?

I seem to be trapped currently between people who are suffering from extreme anxiety- bordering on mania and turning into agorophobia for themselves and their whole families- and others as some above, who have ditched all common sense and all precautions re Covid- whatever the consequences.

Same in politics- stuck between those on the extreme left determined to scupper Labour and any chance of beating Tories- and those at the other end who will agree, condone and more, Johnson and this awful Government.

Yep, the world has gone mad. And as I don't believe in God ... don't think anyone will help us. Despair.

While people have attitudes like that, we're in for the long haul.

What about people who travel to European destinations at the moment? Surely that is irresponsible even if allowed?

There were no “rules”. Indeed there was the legal requirement to wear a mask in indoor public places but most of the rest of the “rules” were advisory. There was never the “rule” that you couldn’t hug anyone.
What will people do when all of the restrictions are lifted on the 19th July as is being promised? (Though Im not convinced as this situation of control suits this government) Will you continue to cower behind your front door and sanitise your newspapers? Or will you go out and get on with life. Will you embrace your friends and family? Will you feel bereft that you no longer have groups of erring people who might be having fun to complain about and to be able to tut into your masks?
We really do have to get on and live with this especially as most of us are fully vaccinated now.

Callistemon

^While people have attitudes like that, we're in for the long haul^.

What about people who travel to European destinations at the moment? Surely that is irresponsible even if allowed?

Which is why I have argued that if they have to, they should do as most Europeans have to do when travelling to UK, eg PCR test before, PCR tests on day 2 and 8 and quarantine for 10 days.

We really do have to get on and live with this especially as most of us are fully vaccinated now.

Yes we do.
This is not going to go away. I've been in Hong Kong when SARS was rife, many people wore masks but it never occurred to us to do so.
If people want to shut themselves away for years there is nothing to stop them at all; it's so much easier now with online shopping, working from home etc.

We have to learn to adjust and adapt but get back to more normal lives.

MissChateline- it is possible to begin to live again, and still be sensible and careful. Why all those extremes all the time? Take it easy, see how it goes- enjoy without going crazy over the top!?!

As said, world gone mad- and in this instance, the price could be very high- a real gamble that we could all have to pay for, all over again.

Signing off before I blow a fuse, really.

Kali2

Callistemon

While people have attitudes like that, we're in for the long haul.

What about people who travel to European destinations at the moment? Surely that is irresponsible even if allowed?

Which is why I have argued that if they have to, they should do as most Europeans have to do when travelling to UK, eg PCR test before, PCR tests on day 2 and 8 and quarantine for 10 days.

So has the UK got something right?

What about countries on the green list?