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The leader has become a liability

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Dec-21 08:16:55

Anyone noticed that Johnson’s support has begun to wan at PMQs?

At one stage Tory MPs would shout support to the rafters every chance they got, but now many don’t bother turning up and the shouts of support seem forced and hollow.

Johnson isn’t delivering, and they are watching an opposition leader who is becoming more confident by the week, whose effortless delivery of attacking questions that hit home every time particularly now that he has a shadow cabinet he wants with the support he will get.

The wheels are looking decidedly wobbly. Johnson’s ineptitude, lies and failure to deliver policy without seemingly constant u-turns is wearing thin.

His time is coming.

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 20:44:08

so is he going to apply for a social care job when he loses his?

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 20:45:15

I'm living for now but I am not that old

How are we going to fill all these urgent job vacancies? especially in care?

Alegrias1 Thu 02-Dec-21 20:47:57

Give it a rest?

Dream on.

You're going to be hearing a lot from us, now and in the future. And please don't give us any faux concern for our state of mind, we won't be listening ?

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 20:48:35

Glitches on GN today...

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 20:50:16

It’s not my concern, faux or otherwise ( I couldn’t care less) but it won’t do anyone’s health any good.?

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 20:51:42

true, having no carers wont do anyone's health any good

Dickens Thu 02-Dec-21 20:52:31

Time for bitter Remainers to give it a rest? Oh yes, I think so.

... in the same way the disgruntled Eurosceptics and other assorted anti European Union individuals have done since 1975?

You didn't give it a rest - why should we?

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 20:59:04

That wasn’t me, or anyone on GN.
Until the referendum was promised by Cameron and then backed by Parliament, nobody on here was even whispering anything on the forum about the EU.
Everyone on here gets why Remainer voters are disappointed that we have left the ( sainted!) EU, but the fact is that we have done, so that ship has sailed.

Lincslass Thu 02-Dec-21 21:02:27

JaneJudge

all these lazy, work shy brexit voters who wanted theses jobs should apply for them angry

It is the Law. Here you are though, and funnily enough it’s Labour that want the 15 year rule to stay. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn05923/ Personally if you’ve lived in another country for at least that amount of time , why would you want to vote, the actions, of said Government, apart from Brexit, will have no impact on your life.

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 21:07:16

what is the law? are you suggesting people who live in Spain but are British who voted Brexit need to come home and work in social care?
Otherwise I am lost to what you are suggesting

Grany Thu 02-Dec-21 21:09:25

There are grounds to pursue a legal case against the Prime Minister and his Cabinet over their role in the COVID pandemic, a leading barrister says

“It’s not just Boris Johnson – he’s not the only one in this ballgame,” says Michael Mansfield QC, chair of the People’s COVID Inquiry, who has told Byline Times that there are grounds for prosecuting the Prime Minister, members of his Cabinet, and former ministers, for their role in Britain’s COVID calamity.

The inquiry, organised by campaigning group Keep Our NHS Public, spent four months collating evidence from more than 50 witnesses – spanning from public health experts to members of the public – about the Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

bylinetimes.com/2021/12/01/this-lawyer-thinks-boris-johnson-could-be-prosecuted-for-misconduct-heres-why-and-how/?fbclid=IwAR0LC7EHoj6BzU8Pq34LUB4SJMac7FotTKiGPuNBMEp1cMW7Y6Cx3yFJOzo

Lincslass Thu 02-Dec-21 21:11:18

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MayBee70 Thu 02-Dec-21 21:12:05

lemongrove

That wasn’t me, or anyone on GN.
Until the referendum was promised by Cameron and then backed by Parliament, nobody on here was even whispering anything on the forum about the EU.
Everyone on here gets why Remainer voters are disappointed that we have left the ( sainted!) EU, but the fact is that we have done, so that ship has sailed.

Well, that’s because most of us had nothing to complain about. By the same token I don’t remember all of the leave voters desperately trying to educate us about the evils of the EU. Cameron only did it because of threat posed to his party by UKIP.

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 21:18:05

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Urmstongran Thu 02-Dec-21 21:21:06

mokryna

But I wasn’t allowed to vote like many others in Europe. We didn’t count. I am British.

Same for my stepfather in the Indy1 referendum in Scotland mokryna. He is in his 90th year. Born in the West Highlands. Speaks Gaelic fluently. However, he has lived here in Manchester for many years. Because he wasn’t resident in Scotland (even though he still owned the family house up there that his sister - who voted - lived in) he wasn’t allowed a vote either. Choices have consequences. That’s life.

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 21:29:08

MayBee70

lemongrove

That wasn’t me, or anyone on GN.
Until the referendum was promised by Cameron and then backed by Parliament, nobody on here was even whispering anything on the forum about the EU.
Everyone on here gets why Remainer voters are disappointed that we have left the ( sainted!) EU, but the fact is that we have done, so that ship has sailed.

Well, that’s because most of us had nothing to complain about. By the same token I don’t remember all of the leave voters desperately trying to educate us about the evils of the EU. Cameron only did it because of threat posed to his party by UKIP.

We didn’t bang on about the EU because there was no point, we were in it for better or worse ( worse, the way it was going.)
Now, if/ when Scotland gets yet another independence referendum, and the vote goes to stay in the union ( say) will Scottish GNers moan on and on saying how awful and unfair it all is?Everyone has to accept the vote and not be eternally sour about it.

GillT57 Thu 02-Dec-21 21:29:50

lemongrove

Glitches on GN today...

Or perhaps you felt it necessary to repeat yourself in order to sound convincing? Nah. I am still a very bitter Remainer

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 21:31:44

So good I typed it twice? ......it was the GN glitch in action.

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 21:32:54

plenty of whatever rhymes with glitches out tonight, for sure

GillT57 Thu 02-Dec-21 21:34:30

Oh and Lincsclass, your comments to Janejudge who has a child with challenging needs is beyond crass.

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 21:35:29

Aren’t you brave enough to type the words you are calling fellow GNers Jane? Obviously not.
Because they don’t agree with you..... sad.

Alegrias1 Thu 02-Dec-21 21:37:51

Is that you Donald?

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 21:38:07

I apologise, I also meant glitches...sad

JaneJudge Thu 02-Dec-21 21:42:25

What does anyone have to agree with me about anyway? I want to know why there aren't people filling the jobs people have left who have gone back home?

WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE?

why were they so upset about people from EU taking our jobs? It is all complete and utter rubbish

dobranoc

lemongrove Thu 02-Dec-21 21:46:42

It’s amazing, no matter what the OP is about, posters always bring it back to Brexit, again and again, ad nauseam.