The Queen’s speech

I thought it was a nice address. I liked that there was a nod to others who have been bereaved this last year.

I did notice the slight clothing 'fails' that people have commented on but really don't think they were worth even mentioning. Looking a little for symbolism in her clothes and jewels and thought the blue brooch looked a bit odd, then realised, red dress, white pearls and blue brooch. I understand that she is always careful in her choice of jewellery for public appearances.

I’ve just watched the Queen.

I have an Aunt who is exactly the same age as the Queen, all but a couple of months. Her body looks exactly the same, as did my mother’s. It is age and weight loss. Perfectly normal.

The brooch weighed down her dress that is all.

What a load of fuss people make!! Get a grip.

Thought the speech appropriate and rather pleasant.

If the same comments were being made about Meghan there would be plenty piling in complaining about spite and nastiness. Seems our Queen is fair game.

I thought she looked a little frail, but she is 95 and she’s been through an awful lot of family trauma this year.

As for the two usual posters with their bitterness and bile - stuck and record spring to mind.

Zoejory

How very strange to be commenting on her bra.

It’s strange, rather unpleasant and totally unnecessary.

If the same comments were being made about Meghan there would be plenty piling in complaining about spite and nastiness. Seems our Queen is fair game.

Not sure what your point is here.

The anti-monarchy comments on this thread have been subjected to a full and thorough pile in and some have been deleted. There's no double standards here. The Queen is not "fair game" but making the subjects think she is, is all part of the Windsor PR machine.

I'm sure everyone has sympathy with an elderly lady who lost her husband this year. However the rest of the speech yesterday was just way of positioning the heir and the next in line, and their adoring and fragrant wives, as the next steps in the long line of unelected Heads of State that we're expected to welcome with open arms. There's never been any mention of how much they apparently all do with respect to climate change in any previous speech, but its flavour of the month now that there's brownie points in it for the Royals.

At least Kate didn't bring her piano.

Pity Kate didn’t bring her piano as she did play beautifully. Beats listening to Meghan’s whining any day!

So am I allowed to play thread police and say that a thread about the Queen's Christmas message is no place for people to display their personal animosity and hatred of her grand-daughter in law? Or is she fair game?

Algerias I have to be honest and tell you I really don’t care! Post what you want and allow others to do the same. Not difficult is it?

Alegrias1

So am I allowed to play thread police and say that a thread about the Queen's Christmas message is no place for people to display their personal animosity and hatred of her grand-daughter in law? Or is she fair game?

Play thread police if you like. The heading was the Queens speech. Some commented on the material of the Queen’s speech and how she might have felt delivering it.
Then there were those who used it as another opportunity to make their anti-royal feelings clear-like we didn’t already know.
Others used it as an opportunity to comment in her clothes and the inadequacy of her underwear -I wonder if posters are that rude in person.
Others are now using it it as an opportunity to move it on to the rest of the family.
If all those other comments are allowed by the thread police, why worry about the latter comments?
I really enjoyed the bit about the school, because . . .

Alegrias1 you didn’t have a problem with posters who brought Diana into a thread about Kate playing a piano

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I like the monarchy and am politically left so I would prefer that nobody is too rich and has huge amounts of money they don't need. There will always be a class of rich people , but these should not be allowed in law selfishly to conserve their immoderate wealth for their own use.

True, the Queen is a wonderful professional with a tremendous conscience of duty to her subjects and her family. She deserves to be paid for her expertise. However it often seems she doesn't really know any life style other than that of the very rich. One can't really blame the Queen, as she is a victim of her social situation like the rest of us.

I don’t know the life style of those with holiday homes, those who sleep on the streets .

I thought it was an amazing address - the best ever! The Queen is a very elderly woman recently bereaved please leave her alone. A fuss indeed about her clothes ! As one poster had already said ' we can't help which family we are born into' I am not a great monarchist but I respect the Royal Family - not impressed with Harry and Meghan though!! The Queen gave a personal address and I appreciated that .

I felt that I knew her better through this year's speech, she was not just speaking as Queen but more personally than usual.
I enjoyed her speech.

Yes I felt that too henetha.

A very moving speech , her love for her husband, her grief,
her pride in her son and grandson carrying on with her husband’s care for the environment and speaking of 4 new babies in her family this year.

Anniebach

I don’t know the life style of those with holiday homes, those who sleep on the streets .

What point are you making Annie?

Shelflife we can't help what family we are born into but it doesn't mean we can't see faults with it. I'm very different to how I was brought up. You'd have to be really stupid to believe you're so special that you deserve to have such a privileged life funded by others who have so much less.

No not stupid. We know the RF aren't stupid. I take that back. But there is no way they can justify it.

When I saw the title “The Queen’s Speech” I didn’t expect to read so much unpleasantness from some of her subjects. What’s going on here? How sad that social media has opened up so much opportunity for us to be unsociable, unkind and unidentified.

I'm nobody's subject.

Not now, not ever.

I’m not a Royalist...but do respect the Queen for her ‘staying power’. She could have stepped down at the outset, but she didn’t.

None of us have a choice of the family we’re born into. We do have a choice as to whether we stay. Hence...so many estrangements, us included.

I thought she spoke very well for an elderly lady and she looked nice and festive in her red dress. I see no need to pick apart her dress, underwear or anything else. When my mum was her age she looked very similar in what she wore. Body shapes change as you age. She is proud of her son and his son and their wives. Nothing wrong in that. They have supported her through these unprecedented times. If she hadn’t done a broadcast she’d have been castigated and as she has done one she is still castigated. She cannot win.

We live in a country where we are allowed to criticise and comment on anybody and anything. She's not being castigated for doing a broadcast that she has done every year since Noah was a lad. She's not being castigated for anything.

I find the discussion about her dress and her undergarments astonishing. Me, I'd rather be commenting on the PR campaign that is underway to pave the way for Charles and then William to be portrayed as the heirs to the successful reign that has been Queen Elizabeth's, and their depiction as the paragons of leadership that will take us further on into 21st Century Global Britain. People are falling for it. Its PR, and maybe most people are happy to accept it but I'm not. And there's many on here that are not.

The RF are able to use the media to tell us how great they are, and hence perpetuate their own place at the top of the heap. The populace are being manipulated. William and his lovely children. Kate and her piano. Our poor Queen, who is just like us in so many ways. They may all be very lovely people. That doesn't mean that we can't ever make valid criticisms of them and their hold on society.

I thought she spoke very well for an elderly lady

What?
Don't you mean for someone who has been used to doing this for decades?