Braverman's behaviour in parliament today proves nothing has changed.

They need the small boats and the unfortunate people that they carry. Without them the ERG wouldn’t have got people to vote for brexit and at the present time they need them to take the blame for everything.

No Suella Braverman is hated by Labour and the Lib Dems because there is a chance she might succeed where others have failed to stop the small boats. If your getting flax you're over the target so they say.

Maudi

No Suella Braverman is hated by Labour and the Lib Dems because there is a chance she might succeed where others have failed to stop the small boats. If your getting flax you're over the target so they say.

Well you just hang on to that thought if it gives you comfort, Maudi. She must be able to weave herself a nice piece of linen by now...

MaizieD

Yes so funny MaizieD haha

Amazingly, several idioms from World War II are still with us 75 years after the end of that great conflict.1 If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target is an old, WWII Army Air Force phrase. It means to take criticism (flak) from a position on a controversial topic (the target). Leaders are first to be criticized for their views and are susceptible to disparagement and abuse for what they say or do.

Seems I'm right about Lib Dems and Labour then with regards to Suella Braverman they are running scared.

I'd love to meet you Maudi. You are impressive!

Seems I'm right about Lib Dems and Labour then with regards to Suella Braverman they are running scared.

It'll be to avoid all that flax.

Fleurpepper

I'd love to meet you Maudi. You are impressive!

It would be more impressive if people credited their sources.

Amazingly, several idioms from World War II are still with us 75 years after the end of that great conflict. If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target is an old, WWII Army Air Force phrase. It means to take criticism (flak) from a position on a controversial topic (the target). Leaders are first to be criticized for their views and are susceptible to disparagement and abuse for what they say or do.

www.theleadermaker.com/if-youre-taking-flak/

Convicted Albanian murderer who was held at Manston processing centre for three weeks before being jailed for entering UK illegally is STILL allowed to continue his asylum application. Copied from one of the papers 😁

Yes you couldn't make it up and yes I blame the government and the so called human rights lawyers who are lining their pockets with UK tax payers money. We need to leave the ECHR. My only hope is Suella Braverman if Labour get in it will be open season with the dinghies.

In Kent there are no year 7 and 8/9 places at schools I think that's correct but I'm sure I will be corrected if wrong place for UK children the dinghy children have first pick for the schools how can this be right something needs to change.

7 million on 4 star hotels to house them all while UK OAPs are frightened to turn the heat on and out own war veterans sleep on the streets, its not right.

Albanian families who reached Britain by boat are among dozens being housed in a luxury Lincolnshire hotel that has been taken over by the Home Office as it struggles to cope with a spiralling migrant crisis.

Stoke Rochford Hall, a grand Victorian stately home outside Grantham, is usually home to glitzy weddings costing thousands of pounds, while rooms are as much as £200 a night.

When The Telegraph visited this week, however, it was instead home to dozens of migrant families.

The hotel, with its picturesque grounds in the rolling countryside south of Grantham, has been taken over since September, with multiple couples having their wedding plans cancelled. Copied from a paper not my own text in case you wondered.

How wonderful I bet some of our own UK citizens/oap would like a holiday there but couldn't afford it, you couldn't make it up could you.

Oh I remember Stoke Rochford. Both OH and myself attended many Conferences there in the past. Great use for it.

This Stoke Rochford Hall?

(Trip advisor reviews)

Sorry, pressed post too soon:

Horrible. What you see is not at all what you get.

Never book this hotel.

not cleaned thoroughly. There were four spiders in the bathroom, cobwebs around all the windows and even cobwebs in the bedside drawer.

Rooms were poor, showers filthy, lightbulbs out in several lights in one room. No mattress covers and the carpet was dirty/ gritty under foot.

That's just the first four reviews.

Fleurpepper

I'd love to meet you Maudi. You are impressive!

At least she's saving us from having to pay to read the Telegraph (as does UG}

Maudi you know that the opposing views are sagging badly when all they can offer are snide comments, and pointing out spelling errors in a sniggering childish way.
The problem is mainly Albanian economic migrants. Without them the numbers of migrants seeking asylum here would be still a large number but much easier to find places for.

Prentice

Maudi you know that the opposing views are sagging badly when all they can offer are snide comments, and pointing out spelling errors in a sniggering childish way.
The problem is mainly Albanian economic migrants. Without them the numbers of migrants seeking asylum here would be still a large number but much easier to find places for.

Sorry Prentice, but that's rubbish.

If people have questions or misunderstandings about refugees and asylum seekers, and ask those questions, they can expect sensible answers.

If people witter on about 4* hotels and how the Albanians are spoiling it for everyone else, they can expect to be derided.

17:17Prentice

Thank you Prentice yes they have no solutions and don't like it when other posters challenge their views they are so used to the echo chamber on here with everyone agreeing with them. How sad perhaps they should get out in the real world and meet some normal people who are affected by the migrant crisis.

Prentice

Maudi you know that the opposing views are sagging badly when all they can offer are snide comments, and pointing out spelling errors in a sniggering childish way.
The problem is mainly Albanian economic migrants. Without them the numbers of migrants seeking asylum here would be still a large number but much easier to find places for.

Prentice if your theory about the problem being with Albanian migrants were correct, why have only 4% of the total number of migrants from all countries have been processed in the last year in your opinion? If it isn’t incompetence, what is it?

We have plenty solutions but you don't like them.

Divert money from the daft Rwanda scheme into processing claims quicker.

Open processing centres in France, as they were offered.

Admit how many people are coming across the channel and prepare for it, instead of blaming everybody else.

Admit that we take a lot less than our fair share of migrants.

How d'you like those solutions?

Maudi

17:17Prentice

Thank you Prentice yes they have no solutions and don't like it when other posters challenge their views they are so used to the echo chamber on here with everyone agreeing with them. How sad perhaps they should get out in the real world and meet some normal people who are affected by the migrant crisis.

Maudi this is factually incorrect. Have you read the thread at all? If so, you would have seen solutions offered.
I’m interested to hear you have personal experience in the real world and have been directly involved with migrants yourself, would you like to offer us the benefit of your experience and tell us what you think the solution is for the genuine asylum seekers who are fleeing their own countries?

If they were genuine asylum seekers fleeing war etc they would be happy to find a safe haven in the numerous EU countries they have passed through not pay large sums of money to the smuggling gangs to come here.

Yes I've personally seen the boats on the Kent beaches its a frightening sight I can tell you.

I am biting my tongue...

If they were genuine asylum seekers fleeing war etc they would be happy to find a safe haven in the numerous EU countries they have passed through not pay large sums of money to the smuggling gangs to come here.

Why is it that 80% ish of their claims are accepted then? If they are not "genuine" asylum seekers?

MaizieD

I am biting my tongue...

Good strategy. I should follow your example.

Maudi

If they were genuine asylum seekers fleeing war etc they would be happy to find a safe haven in the numerous EU countries they have passed through not pay large sums of money to the smuggling gangs to come here.

Yes I've personally seen the boats on the Kent beaches its a frightening sight I can tell you.

Why do you think the UK should not accept any of these people but it’s perfectly fine for those who want to come to the UK to be housed in, presumably the first European country they get to? Where is your sense of fair play? If they chartered large ships and arrived directly on the shores of the UK without passing through other countries what then?
Seeing migrant boats landing doesn’t count as direct experience by the way, working with and understanding the backgrounds and motivation of migrants does.