Braverman's behaviour in parliament today proves nothing has changed.

I'm a pretty tough cookie but this whole thing makes me want to cry.

It's a well used political tactic to, first create a crisis and then present ourselves as the only ones who can solve it.

Yes Normandygirl it’s a tatic frequently used by cruel regimes throughout history. How sad!

MRSA now prevalent.

Their ignorance is beyond belief in those holding high office.

What on earth do they expect when people are crammed together without care or resources.

Their education must be abysmal.

It’s as if the people in power view these asylum seekers as less than human.

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Thanks Volver. Frightening and depressing isn’t it!

Oh yes let’s all have a go at the lady that is going to stop the illegal immigrants coming here. While labour will open up our country and let them all in. And no I didn’t vote cons but anyone who can stop these ppl arriving in dinghies gets my vote.

Oh don't start.

She's no lady and she's not going to stop anything.

I’ve just seen that she’s now admitted to sending herself emails 6 times! She’s either stupid or arrogant - or both.
news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-apologises-again-as-she-admits-sending-official-govt-documents-to-her-personal-email-on-six-occasions-12734938

volver

Oh don't start.

She's no lady and she's not going to stop anything.

Oh you know her personal do eh no didn’t think so if you can’t see she’s a lady maybe try specsavers

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Thanks for the Tony Ben post volver he was spot on with that.

anyone who can stop these ppl arriving in dinghies gets my vote.

The actions of Braverman and her predecessor clearly haven’t ‘stopped’ anything so far, Nannashirlz. As I’m sure you’re aware, many of the people arriving here are genuinely fleeing from war zones e.g. Syria and Afghanistan and are seeking safety, on a human rights level. Are you suggesting that the UK denies them asylum?

I have no idea what the solution is but if I lived alone and was in the receipt of this letter I would be worried

The decision to stop moving these people on, was quite deliberate by Patel and now Braverman.

GrannyGravy13

I have no idea what the solution is but if I lived alone and was in the receipt of this letter I would be worried

Not too easy to read, too small. I seriously thought it said Bunny Corner.

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Is this any better?

Yes, thank you. 👍🏼

Maudi wrote:

"Two dinghies with God knows who on board arrived on the Kent coast a few days ago and they disappeared into the countryside, I would have thought that anyone with any sense would think that they were a security risk not Suella Braverman who is trying to stop them."

Isn't the problem why and how she is trying to stop them?

GrannyGravy13

Is this any better?

OK, now I've read it it's an absolute f***ing disgrace.

I am going to guess it's written by the warden of similar of the residence, or at least someone pretending to be. Who in a position of responsibility, would seriously say to someone in sheltered housing, ring 999 if you see someone looking suspicious. Who tells them to tell their MP in these circumstances?

The lack of appropriate use of commas and lack of a coherent message tells me a lot about the person writing this letter.

I agree WW The whole issue has been politicised when it’s actually about human rights - not right / left politics. If asylum claims were dealt with more speedily, those who are eligible to stay would be able to start contributing to society (we have hundreds of thousands of job vacancies); and those found not eligible could quickly be returned to their country of origin. No need for long term residence in detention centres or hotels. I wish both parties would work together on this - it’s about human rights, not party politics.

volver

GrannyGravy13

Is this any better?

OK, now I've read it it's an absolute f***ing disgrace.

I am going to guess it's written by the warden of similar of the residence, or at least someone pretending to be. Who in a position of responsibility, would seriously say to someone in sheltered housing, ring 999 if you see someone looking suspicious. Who tells them to tell their MP in these circumstances?

The lack of appropriate use of commas and lack of a coherent message tells me a lot about the person writing this letter.

It’s fromDover District Council’s Independent Living Manager (on their headed paper) the people receiving it, would in all probability be scared.

My concern is it should not be necessary to send it out in the first place.

Nannashirlz

Oh yes let’s all have a go at the lady that is going to stop the illegal immigrants coming here. While labour will open up our country and let them all in. And no I didn’t vote cons but anyone who can stop these ppl arriving in dinghies gets my vote.

"Lady"? I'm not sure she would appreciate that.

I assume you mean stopping asylum seekers. Nothing they have done has worked. Neither is there anything to show Labour "will open up our country and let them all in". You seem to deal in untruths. “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” You seem to be making them up to suit your own bias.

I am sure the "ppl" arriving in dinghies would like a legal route of access. How about backing someone who offers to put that in place? Both asylum seekers and economic migrants would almost certainly prefer that. That needs investment in real things like proper systems, sufficient people to process the applicants, a decent work permit system and negotiation with countries to which we may need to return people.

The problem is this government. It has moved so far to the right that suggesting it does such things is seen as "big government" even if its Trumpian "biglyness" would reduce once a proper system was running.

GrannyGravy13

Is this any better?

What do you find wrong with the letter GrannyGravy?

GrannyGravy13

volver

GrannyGravy13

Is this any better?

OK, now I've read it it's an absolute f***ing disgrace.

I am going to guess it's written by the warden of similar of the residence, or at least someone pretending to be. Who in a position of responsibility, would seriously say to someone in sheltered housing, ring 999 if you see someone looking suspicious. Who tells them to tell their MP in these circumstances?

The lack of appropriate use of commas and lack of a coherent message tells me a lot about the person writing this letter.

It’s fromDover District Council’s Independent Living Manager (on their headed paper) the people receiving it, would in all probability be scared.

My concern is it should not be necessary to send it out in the first place.

And are they less scared now? Are they reassured that the place where they live is taking all necessary steps to keep them safe? Or are they scared witless and ready to be suspicious of anyone they see who they don't immediately recognise?

If my parent lived in these facilities and received a letter like this I'd be fuming.