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One for those who never go on the News and Politics Forum

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varian Fri 03-Feb-23 13:11:03

What do politics have to do with me????

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kittylester Sat 04-Feb-23 09:22:40

Brilliant post Galaxy.

And I agree with sago and everyone else who asserts that it is the posters not the topic. Even the op is somewhat aggressive.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:26:34

You know I have been thinking about the comments on this thread and how people do not like their views challenged.

I do read, but do not necessarily contribute to other threads, and am often taken aback at the sheer nastiness and backbiting that posters seem to think is acceptable, often directed towards brand new members, but also to other longstanding members.

At least on the N&P you need to back up your opinion with evidence in order to be taken seriously 😄😄😄

Kandinsky Sat 04-Feb-23 09:28:52

Agree. Even the op comes across as aggressive.
And 100% agree that criticism of those who appear not interested in N&P is pretty mean.
When I was a young mum of 3 it was enough to just get through the day. I barely had time to sit down.

dragonfly46 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:29:24

Whitewavemark2

You know I have been thinking about the comments on this thread and how people do not like their views challenged.

I do read, but do not necessarily contribute to other threads, and am often taken aback at the sheer nastiness and backbiting that posters seem to think is acceptable, often directed towards brand new members, but also to other longstanding members.

At least on the N&P you need to back up your opinion with evidence in order to be taken seriously 😄😄😄

How condescending- that is exactly why we don’t post.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:30:14

dragonfly46

Whitewavemark2

You know I have been thinking about the comments on this thread and how people do not like their views challenged.

I do read, but do not necessarily contribute to other threads, and am often taken aback at the sheer nastiness and backbiting that posters seem to think is acceptable, often directed towards brand new members, but also to other longstanding members.

At least on the N&P you need to back up your opinion with evidence in order to be taken seriously 😄😄😄

How condescending- that is exactly why we don’t post.

Oh dear, my point exactly.

FannyCornforth Sat 04-Feb-23 09:33:49

MerylStreep

Baggs summed it up.
It’s not the subject matter that posters are avoiding, it’s some posters.

Of course it is. We all know that.
It’s the elephant on the thread, as it were.

dragonfly46 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:34:06

Hardly!

Yammy Sat 04-Feb-23 09:34:31

AGAA4

It doesn't mean that those who don't come on the N and P threads have no interest in politics. We all come on GN for different reasons.
I do head for these threads and watch Politics Live and keep up with the news but others may prefer more light-hearted threads having had enough of the news for one day.

I agree with this AGAA4 Sometimes I dip in but don't really see why I should justify my reasons to anyone else. It's not school and just the type of question to put people ever posting on the N&P thread, why should we share our thoughts if we don't want to? Is it for some survey or marketing purposes?

Caleo Sat 04-Feb-23 09:36:39

Part political wrangling such as I usually see on TV is hard to understand, as so much of it is evasive and consists of rationalisations of party policies and ideologies. Caroline Lucas of the Green Party is exceptional in her explicit statements of facts and solutions to problems.

Caleo Sat 04-Feb-23 09:36:56

Party

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:39:20

Please don’t get me wrong though, I’m not remotely interested in whether anyone is interested in politics or not.

What I am genuinely puzzled about is what posts of mine posters find so unpleasant etc.

I always try to address the subject under discussion without being personal or unpleasant.

I also think a lightness of touch helps. Taking oneself too seriously is always a mistake, and willingness to apologise if I get it wrong, or people feel affronted.

FannyCornforth Sat 04-Feb-23 09:40:37

dragonfly46

Hardly!

Yes, I see what you mean! 🐘

Caleo Sat 04-Feb-23 09:43:10

If one;s ideas are not to be challenged how can one learn?

Maggiemaybe Sat 04-Feb-23 09:43:22

I find on the politics thread there are actually only a couple of people who are pains in the proverbial and if you never respond to their particular wit and sarcasm it is ok.

Hmm. Respond or not, you’ll soon know about it if they don’t like you, or are just in the mood for a bit of fun at someone else’s expense.

I’m deeply interested in politics of all kinds, and often scroll through the threads to see the news and views, but rarely comment. There are some knowledgeable and interesting posters on N & P, but sadly some of them like to emphasise their superiority by putting others down.

I’m not a sensitive soul by any means but really, life’s too short to spend time in the kind of company you’d cross the road to avoid in real life. smile

FannyCornforth Sat 04-Feb-23 09:47:53

Caleo

If one;s ideas are not to be challenged how can one learn?

There’s ‘challenged’ and there’s ‘being spoken to like something unpleasant on the sole of one’s shoe’

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:49:01

How can one respond to innuendo?

I assume I am one of the posters that is being talked about, but until I am pointed to posts that I have posted that people find objectionable, how can I learn to avoid such posts in future?

Galaxy Sat 04-Feb-23 09:49:37

I never find your posts unpleasant whitewave, ever. I might disagree with you sometimes but you are never unpleasant.
I think this is the problem with threads that end up about 'some posters'. Its pointless.

Galaxy Sat 04-Feb-23 09:51:01

Also I am sure that some posters dont like some of my posts, that's the risk of being on an open forum, it's absolutely fine for people to not like what I say.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:52:26

Galaxy

I never find your posts unpleasant whitewave, ever. I might disagree with you sometimes but you are never unpleasant.
I think this is the problem with threads that end up about 'some posters'. Its pointless.

Thanks for that, but the offer is still open folks.

And yes whilst talking in such terms it is pointless really.

How about just quoting a couple of actual lines in a post to make your points more meaningful?

FannyCornforth Sat 04-Feb-23 09:52:45

Whitewavemark2

How can one respond to innuendo?

I assume I am one of the posters that is being talked about, but until I am pointed to posts that I have posted that people find objectionable, how can I learn to avoid such posts in future?

I really don’t think that you are at all! You are always lovely, I have never noticed you being rude.

Urmstongran Sat 04-Feb-23 09:53:36

MerylStreep

Not everyone has a thick skin like Urmstongran.
If she stopped feeding them, they’d be stuffed.

Oh ‘eck! Maybe I ought to stop! 🤣

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:53:40

Galaxy

Also I am sure that some posters dont like some of my posts, that's the risk of being on an open forum, it's absolutely fine for people to not like what I say.

Yes absolutely. I have no problem with that. But I do have a problem where posters come away feeling like s…t on someone’s shoe.

That is dreadful.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Feb-23 09:54:58

Urmstongran

MerylStreep

Not everyone has a thick skin like Urmstongran.
If she stopped feeding them, they’d be stuffed.

Oh ‘eck! Maybe I ought to stop! 🤣

😄😄😄😄 like me you can’t help yourself. Besides it is fun.

Yammy Sat 04-Feb-23 09:58:44

Well said Maggiemaybe. I think you have explained what a lot of us think. If people want to air their views in such an arrogant superior manner they should if not already join the Constituency party they hold allegiance to and get into some verbal tirades that they seem to enjoy. Can't or don't want ever more battles in their life.
The question in itself is confrontational. I am wondering why I have answered.

GagaJo Sat 04-Feb-23 10:03:44

MerylStreep

Not everyone has a thick skin like Urmstongran.
If she stopped feeding them, they’d be stuffed.

I frequently disagree with UG but I like feeding time 🤣🤣🤣