Anybody else who doesn't know who to vote for?

Nicenanny3

23/05/2024 18:39zakouma66

Nicenanny3

Also I forgot the awful sneering Emily Thornberry who looked down her nose at the hard working white van man and the English Flag no thanks.

hard working white van man? really?

*yes hard working white van man, traders such as plumbers, electricians mostly use white vans, hence English people call then white van man, sigh*

Hilarious! Some of those hard working van men are a law unto themselves. Do they turn up and keep their word?

Do some of them rip people off because they can?

Oh boo hoo, hard working white van man.

Regarding " snide" remarks about Reform, I've asked what are their policies? Still waiting a coherent answer.

I wrote further back that as it happens, I quite like our MP.
But now starting to look into things further as an election approaches, he isnt our MP!
We have had recent boundary changes. Not sure if we were in a different one previously, or whether I have had it wrong all along!
Makes things even more confusing about voting, as not as keen on the MP I supposedly had.

08:54MaizieD to this stereotype, the "white van man" is typically an independent tradesperson, such as a builder, plumber or locksmith, self-employed, or running a small enterprise,[2] for whom driving a commercial vehicle is not their main line of business, as it would be for a professional freight-driver.[3] The "white" refers to the archetypal and most common colour of the van, not the driver himself.

Nicenanny3

08:54MaizieD to this stereotype, the "white van man" is typically an independent tradesperson, such as a builder, plumber or locksmith, self-employed, or running a small enterprise,[2] for whom driving a commercial vehicle is not their main line of business, as it would be for a professional freight-driver.[3] The "white" refers to the archetypal and most common colour of the van, not the driver himself.

I'm a grandmother, too. I don't need any instructions on how to suck eggs.

I am very well aware of how the phrase is used politically.

They are still bloody awful drivers...

How could anybody be so dim as to assume " white" referred to the ethnicity of the van driver?

Ah well. There you have it.

No it referred to the working class. Or what Emily Thornberry thinks are the working class. Bless her.

they are still bloody awful drivers

Haha, how could I possibly disagree?

Germanshepherdsmum

Strange that Starmer appeals to ‘ordinary people’. His school became fee-paying whilst he was there. After a first degree he studied for a second degree and was called to the Bar - not a route for a poor person by any means but he would have us all believe that’s what he was.

And his second degree was gained at……..wait for it…..Oxford!
That bastion of hatred for so many people!

MissAdventure

Its only ok to read the mail if you're forced to, or find a discarded one, and have no other reading matter, on gransnet.

Spot on MissA! 🤣🤣

fancythat

I wrote further back that as it happens, I quite like our MP.
But now starting to look into things further as an election approaches, he isnt our MP!
We have had recent boundary changes. Not sure if we were in a different one previously, or whether I have had it wrong all along!
Makes things even more confusing about voting, as not as keen on the MP I supposedly had.

I too am in an area that has had boundary changes. The MP isn’t in the party I would choose to elect, but he’s a good, fair MP who does a lot of work on behalf of the community and makes his voice heard in Westminster. I will be voting for him.

I too am subject to a boundary change which should have meant my useless MP in his safe seat could face a challenge. Looking at the latest forecast, he's likely to get re-elected by the new constituency. Oh well at least he'll be seen on the High Street a few times between now and the election, rather than his usual invisibility.

Galaxy

No it referred to the working class. Or what Emily Thornberry thinks are the working class. Bless her.

Jeez!

If she'd posted a picture of a treelined road with BMWs and Audis parked on the drives, just for the context of the neighbourhood, would she have been accused of sneering at the middle classes?

And why the snidey comment 'Or what Emily Thornberry thinks are the working class.' ?

I'm afraid that I never did understand the furore over that photo, I think it was all entirely synthetic indignation and outrage.

The working class often dont behave or think in the way some in the labour party would like them to think. It's a fairly well known issue. Alan Johnson was fairly witty about it when talking to Jon Lansman on the night of Corbyns defeat. Its frequently a problem for the Labour party, hence the disbelief at the Brexit vote, the disbelief at Johnsons appeal. My snide comment reflects the fact that I dont rate Emily Thornberry particularly highly.

My snide comment reflects the fact that I don't rate Emily Thornberry particularly highly.
White van man and flags aside, Lady Nugee, to give her her correct title, comes across as such an unbearably patronising woman.
Perhaps her sneer and manner are just unfortunate.

I think the initial row, with Thornberry, started with the fact that it was during a major football tournament, and there were arguments raging about the flag of England everywhere.

She then made a comment about “white van man”.🙄

Callistemon21

^My snide comment reflects the fact that I don't rate Emily Thornberry particularly highly.^
White van man and flags aside, Lady Nugee, to give her her correct title, comes across as such an unbearably patronising woman.
Perhaps her sneer and manner are just unfortunate.

Exactly.
I wouldn’t give her the benefit of the doubt with regard to her sneer and manner.
I think she’s an unbearable snob, who despises the people she’s wishing to represent. That is, the working class.

Vote for the best candidate to get the tories out, if in doubt vote labour

I can’t bear Emily Thornberry. I agree with maddy’s summing up.

zakouma66

How could anybody be so dim as to assume " white" referred to the ethnicity of the van driver?

Ah well. There you have it.

That's what you thought though wasn't it. Are you calling yourself dim. I know what the phrase means.

And then there was the time that she called Stockton on Tees a s******e. Oh hang on a minute, that was the current Home Secretary wasn’t it. But let’s forget that because he tried to deny it didn’t he.

MayBee70

And then there was the time that she called Stockton on Tees a s******e. Oh hang on a minute, that was the current Home Secretary wasn’t it. But let’s forget that because he tried to deny it didn’t he.

I hadn't realised that a bad act by one MP excuses a bad act by a different one. Does it only count if they're from different parties, or can colleagues also cancel each other out? Voting for Labour doesn't mean you have to accept any behaviour from all Labour MPs. I can't stand the woman, she's a smug, pompous snob.

She then made a comment about “white van man”.

She posted a picture of a house displaying 3 St George's flags with a white van parked outside. Her comment was 'Image from Rochester'.

That was the tweet all the fuss was over. Where did she say 'white van man'?

If those of you who think she's a 'snob' can give me some rather more concrete evidence of he 'snobbishness' I'm happy to accept that I'm wrong.

And leave her title out of it. Having a title by virtue of marrying a man with a title is not evidence of being a snob.

Try listening to her for a while. That should convince you.

Nicenanny3

zakouma66

How could anybody be so dim as to assume " white" referred to the ethnicity of the van driver?

Ah well. There you have it.

That's what you thought though wasn't it. Are you calling yourself dim. I know what the phrase means.

Of course I didn't think that? I can be a bit absent minded but not dim generally.

Germanshepherdsmum

Try listening to her for a while. That should convince you.

Of course we’ve listened to her. Why assume that we haven’t?