Labours one in one out migrant policy

StripeyGran

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So doesn't this just bear out the fact that there's no point taking the deportees back to France or anywhere in Europe? They need to be taken many thousands of miles away where coming back is not an option.

Echoes of the past here.

I await the inevitable now......

Goady.

Not necessarily StripeyGran. Send them to Christmas Island ( though that's not available!) for all I care. The point is anywhere far enough not to return.

What inevitable? What echoes?Speaking in riddles doesn’t help with this subject.

Also send them anywhere where they will be looked after properly. Obviously France is not doing this well, otherwise why would they want to keep coming back to the UK, I wonder?

We need to stop them coming in the first place. Then we wouldn’t have to send them anywhere. This was supposed to do that but as most of us knew, apart from Starmer, it wouldn’t work.

StripeyGran

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So doesn't this just bear out the fact that there's no point taking the deportees back to France or anywhere in Europe? They need to be taken many thousands of miles away where coming back is not an option.

Echoes of the past here.

I await the inevitable now......

Several other countries are refusing to take more migrants in so implying that the UK is so awful in not wanting them is ridiculous.

StripeyGran

escaped

So doesn't this just bear out the fact that there's no point taking the deportees back to France or anywhere in Europe? They need to be taken many thousands of miles away where coming back is not an option.

Echoes of the past here.

I await the inevitable now......

I await your suggestions.

Not working, is it.
Who knew?

Migrants are given money to go back to their country of origin, not France, which is considered to be a safe country. He must have had money to pay for another trip but it wasn't taxpayers money.

beabusy

Migrants are given money to go back to their country of origin, not France, which is considered to be a safe country. He must have had money to pay for another trip but it wasn't taxpayers money.

Oh, ok, thank you.

The Home Office is now trying urgently to return the back-and-forth migrant to France again, apparently.

Why not return the Boomerang Migrant back to his home country of Iran? 🤔

I bet so many posters saw the title of the thread GG13 and would’ve put money on it being started by me! 😁
Wrong!

Casdon

A Home Office spokesperson said: “We will not accept any abuse of our borders, and we will do everything in our power to remove those without the legal right to be here. Individuals who are returned under the pilot and subsequently attempt to re-enter the UK illegally will be removed.”

😂😂😂

They have to find some bluddy spokesperson to defend the indefensible.

I don’t know how they can say it with any kind of conviction any more. Most of us don’t believe a word they say on this topic any more.

Oreo

What inevitable? What echoes?Speaking in riddles doesn’t help with this subject.

A complete mystery to me as well Oreo. 🤷‍♀️

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oreo

What inevitable? What echoes?Speaking in riddles doesn’t help with this subject.

A complete mystery to me as well Oreo. 🤷‍♀️

Echoes of what has happened previously under other Governments?

Inevitable that popping someone back across the Channel to France means they will try again to come to the Britain I would think?

Perhaps. 🤔

This was a hastily introduced policy that relies on a chaotic French government to implement.

Dominic Casciani on BBC News last night, explained a little about the legislation that’s currently before Parliament for collaboration between UK, French and German border forces.

Watch from around 4 minutes in here:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002l4cr/bbc-news-at-ten-22102025

This isn’t an issue than can be resolved quickly. Whatever Reform say, they would encounter the same problems.

Remember, Farage rowed back on saying he would have it sorted within two weeks of coming to power, saying instead, two weeks from legislation being passed. The kinds of changse they have suggested would be unlikely to get through Parliament in a term of office even if a Reform goverment lasted that long, which, looking at the shambles in Kent CC under LInden Kemkaran, wouldn’t be long.

We all know the issues here. The UK left the EU and put itself outside of Dubin III. The UK now has to rebuild cooperation and a legal framework with other European nations. It can’t be done overnight with sticky tape.

Allira

StripeyGran

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So doesn't this just bear out the fact that there's no point taking the deportees back to France or anywhere in Europe? They need to be taken many thousands of miles away where coming back is not an option.

Echoes of the past here.

I await the inevitable now......

I await your suggestions.

Will you and your alter ego kindly stop bullying me on this forum?

I have shared my experiences and thoughts on migration. I have also made suggestions, although I am a total amateur.

I believe we must treat other human being with diginity and respect and the current climate of hatred is frightening.

I am also not a complete fool and acknowledge fully that rescources are finite and cultural differences are a challenge. I also am aware that a small number of people are evil and wish to harm others.

StripeyGran

escaped

So doesn't this just bear out the fact that there's no point taking the deportees back to France or anywhere in Europe? They need to be taken many thousands of miles away where coming back is not an option.

Echoes of the past here.

I await the inevitable now......

Reminds me of the sort of thing that people say when they trap a mouse in their kitchen in a humane trap and plan to release it back into the wild…

This isn’t an issue than can be resolved quickly.
I totally agree. Infact we'll be lucky if it can be resolved before the next general election.
What iterates me is all the groundbreaking agreement rubbish, and strutting around praising themselves before anything was off the ground. Just wasting their breath really, because the figures are a mockery.

*irritates not iterates

Visgir1

Where did he get the money from to pay for another trip!
Unbelievable!

I said that 😳

Can’t help but feel that some people don’t actually want any of these measures to work and seem positively gleeful when things go wrong .

Can anyone explain where all the migrants get the thousands of pounds for their boat trip in the first place? They all seem to be genuinely poor people but they seem to be able to get their hands on lots of money to fund their trips?

Have you not heard of zig zag brokers?

For a fee of €100 to €400, these brokers take a migrant to a point on the coast where a boat is being prepared for launch, so that the migrant can attempt to board it, by force if necessary, without paying the fare.

globalinitiative.net/analysis/how-to-make-and-lose-a-fortune-smuggling-migrants-on-the-french-coast/

MayBee70

Can’t help but feel that some people don’t actually want any of these measures to work and seem positively gleeful when things go wrong .

Not me.
I want something - anything - to work now, by anyone, as it’s beyond ridiculous.

I think it’s not so much ‘glee’ as Schadenfreude because Labour (14 years in opposition plenty of time to think up their own plan as they shouted down Rwanda on the first day in office) told us the grown ups were now back in charge. Puffed up with their own hubris they seriously thought they’d Get This Sorted.

Well they haven’t. And they are embarrassing to boot over it. Joe Public doesn’t trust a word they say on it now and I’m not surprised.