Burqa or niqab- why can’t people get it right?

So which was it? Bad hair or religious reasons?

though thinking anyone who does wear the full veil is a terrorist is an insult itself

Motorcyclists and hoodie wearers, being asked to remove their face covering in banks and shops, could say the same couldn't they? And this isn't just about terrorist fears is it? It's about social interaction being hindered.

Bluebelle
Exactly what did I write that you consider to be 'not nice'?
Did I mention at all that all Muslims are terrorists?
Quite honestly I don't give a damn what anyone wears, and I'm hardly 'up in arms' over it!
However, three weeks ago, I walked into my usual branch of my bank, wearing a full face crash helmet. I wanted to check something before my weekend away with an old friend who travels everywhere by motorcycle. I was stopped before I'd even walked ten feet into the building and told, not asked, told, to lift the visor, remove the helmet, or leave immediately.
Would they have dared say that to a woman wearing a Burqa or Niqab?
I have never suggested that everyone who wears a face covering is a terrorist, but the fact remains that as a disguise, it's bloody effective!
And before anyone feels like mouthing off about my comments, maybe you should know that my closest male friend, he of the motorcycle, is a Sunni Muslim, a Paediatrician, and absolutely against women wearing Burqas or Niqabs, as he sees it as the continuing subjugation of women.
His DM didn't wear the veil, nor his sister, or his sister in law, or indeed, his wife.
To be brutally honest, the biggest problem I have with anything, is people such as yourself who deliberately misread comments!

in other words, it was her choice. She wasnt instructed to do it by a man.

Of course she wasn't. Call me cynical if you like but everything Nadiya Hussein does is career motivated. Winners of Bake Off have one by one ticked all the diversity boxes - Gay, single mum, pensioner, ex military, flirty, hijab wearer etc. There was more fuss made about Nadiya's win than any other contestant. She was ratings dynamite.

A quick change of image, ditching the hijab for the far more flattering turban completed the 'journey'.

Sorry but I don't think religion or tradition has anything to do with it.

I agree with Juggernaut. Allowing the wearing of the burqa and niqab is discriminatory against all the other face coverings which are not allowed.

I don’t know what to call what she is wearing now,but it can’t be a turban can it?

A turban is a symbol of the Sikh religion. It would be very disrespectful for her to wear one.

so which are these face coverings which are being discriminated against please?

Motor cycle helmets, balaclavas (in cold weather) hoodies, even baseball caps with large brims. See Juggernauts post.

Nadiya may wear the hijab now because it is part of her being a Muslim, but it did start with a 'bad hair day'.

In some ways this could be liberating from the tyranny of coiping with 'difficult hair' and making oneself look presentable before venturing out.

ps she was 14 at the time.
I watched her programme.

That's exactly how my Muslim online friend saw it.
She would often have her pyjamas on underneath if it was a school day.

I've had a very 'bad hair day'
It started out just fine after a tussle, then it rained.

I think I've had a bad hair decade!
Its on my 'to do' list.
A haircut, not a Burka, or however its spelt.

So people in hoodies are the victims of discrimination? That's a national disgrace.

Well, David Cameron did tell us to 'hug a hoodie'.
I hugged one today, but it was my friend with her rain hood pulled right up.

There are shops around here which state who they will and won't accept.
Hoodies, no more than 2 school children at a time.
They don't mention Muslims at all.
So yes, I suppose hoodies are discriminated against.

You know, I think you are onto something there..... No hoodies, no Muslims. Yes that would work.

Discrimination in that there’s one rule for them and another for a different group, yes, Batty.

Being disingenuous about hoodies doesn't work for me oldbatty. If you prefer to ignore the fact that some sections of society are prohibited from entering certain buildings, purely because what they are wearing is obscuring their faces, then that has to be the case for all sections of society. Otherwise, it's discriminatory. And, like you, I feel strongly against discrimination; whoever it's against.

I agree Chewbacca Good post.
In answer to your query about face covering oldbatty I based my comment on information I have read and what I have observed myself.

Haven't read the thread, just the title.

What's wrong with just calling things that cover the face face-coverings?

I can see that it a hot dusty sandy country being covered up might be a good idea. But in the uk you need to be able to get some vitamin d. Behind these things there are often practical reasons like Roman soldiers wearing sandals.
If people wear untypical clothing they must be prepared for comment.

How can you observe the fact that a man has told a woman to wear certain clothing?

Pedantics

no its not, you can't observe that. Its an impossibility.