What happened to 'th' ?

The area where I live people say they are 'going Leicester' rather than going TO Leicester - drives me mad.

When I first moved to this little town near Wigan, 53 years ago, talking with the ‘auld fowk’ was almost impossible. They used so many dialect words that it was almost like being in a foreign country. The locals could tell, just from listening to your accent, which nearby town you came from - even just a few miles away.
Far from berating people for not ‘spakin proper-like’ I find it sad that the old ways are dying out. Who wants everyone to sound the same?

Lessismore the clue is in the first 5 letters: jewel

Bit rude?

So it's a J sound in my accent, followed by ool/ri sound.

I don't speak in a particularly sloppy way. People have accents. I say the word sure like sh...oo...a.It's accent.

Tee time....I think you mean " goooin Leicester" me duck!!!

Granny23, This is Pedants' corner so I think we are allowed to be a bit pedantic. I find dialects interesting and I am pleased that regional accents are now acceptable in most walks of life. However, sloppy speech is not a dialect. Also, if careless speech interferes with meaning this could have serious consequences. The other day somebody on the radio was describing how many job applicants are not offered a job because of their poor speech. They have no idea of register, don't articulate and show poor command of grammar. Surely, we must uphold some standards. Apparently many young applicants do not make eye contact. I wonder if this has anything to do with too much looking at phones/screens.

Vocal fry stinks.

I think there’s s difference between dialects/accents and lazy or even affected speech e.g Tony Blair and Jane Garvey with their glottal stops which I find v annoying.

That sixth thing drives me mad. Very few people on TV can say sixth. I was listening to a commentary on something the other day and the person said 'this is the sick time this has happened'. They don't even make an attempt to say it properly. Why is it so difficult?

I find it quite difficult.
My mouth doesn't naturally make the shapes needed to make those sounds.
That's the best way I can describe it.

Of course, we can all find certain accents / dialects / ways of speaking more or less attractive.
But I would ask those of you who have been critical of the way some of us speak, please think about how it would be if we all spoke in the same way (your way!)
Proper grammar for letters and documents, and some care in speaking is courteous, but otherwise I think we should celebrate difference. And I have never heard an accent that someone doesn't deride as 'lazy'.

Not meant to be rude at all Lessismore just descriptive.

I hear 'joollery' so many times and it's wrong.

Ah OK, I say joo...eh. l..ri

Hopefully this is acceptable.

People now think me strange as I wander about muttering words over and over again.

Pronunciation of words, like grammar and meaning evolve ove.r time. That is why we no longer speak Anglo-Saxon

The older generation usually complain about it. As will today's youngsters when they get old and hear their children and grandchildren pronouncing things differently.

Don't get me started. I HATE it.

As with bad spelling, bad pronunciation is not acceptable when it changes the meaning of what is being said or written.

Fights, arguments, and - who knows? - possibly even wars can break out as a result of misunderstandings.

An apostrophe can change the meaning of a sentence.

There's a fine line between making a grammatical or spelling error and turning an innocuous statement into an insult.

Where do we draw that line?

I am a terrible snob when it comes to grammar and speech

My biggest bugbear is when people say the letter ‘aitch’ and actually say ’Haitch’!!
Or sound the ‘H’ on words like Hotel when saying “I went to an Hotel.”

Av u seen my nu seh-ee? I like fowt I'd geh id from a ca-a-log

as heard on a soap a while ago!

Any one else hate tv newsreaders pronouncing places and people as in their country of origin ie 'Paree' instead of Paris etc.?