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Living with someone with strongly opposing political views

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MeltingMacaron Fri 03-Aug-18 15:36:54

My partner (of only a few years) was, I believed, a moderate conservative centrist. I am left and liberal. We could always discuss and debate politics in a polite and reasoned manner, respecting one another’s different points of view - until the EU referendum in which he voted to leave and I voted to remain.

Since the result and all that has happened since, he has become much more extreme in his views. With each hiccup in the Brexit process he defends his position in an increasingly indignant and aggressive manner.

He is an intelligent and well-educated man. He reads the Telegraph while I read the Guardian. During the run up to the referendum I also read his Telegraph to try to get a balanced view of the debate. The idea of reading the Guardian is anathema to him.

Nowadays his views are sounding more and more like the worst headlines from the right wing tabloids and I'm finding it hard to tolerate. My views are no longer respected but ridiculed as if the left is to blame for all that is going wrong in the leave negotiations.

It’s getting to the stage where I think it’s best to remain quiet and not talk politics at all but that’s a cop out, isn’t it? I worry that I am starting to dislike him and that Brexit could kill our relationship.

Is anyone else in this situation and managing to keep a cool head?

Jalima1108 Sun 05-Aug-18 18:53:17

I suppose that could apply to remainers too - that is a moot point.

Just saying in the interests of fairness.

petra Sun 05-Aug-18 18:55:29

Varian
i only have one good friend who admits to voting leave
On Dec 15, you stated:
the eu referendum cemented the views of all our extended family and close friends

varian Sun 05-Aug-18 20:01:25

Both of these statements are true.

It is interesting to see you took the trouble to check!

Nannarose Sun 05-Aug-18 22:05:23

Just to say that I'm in the 'it isn't about Brexit' camp. It's about a general view of the world, and respect.
DH and I have disagreed over the years about politics, but we have always respected each other, listened carefully and thoughtfully, and we do, broadly speaking, have a similar world view.
In a some social situations, it may make sense to avoid religion and politics to enable everyone to have a nice time, or to get a job done. But a relationship in which we didn't debate things that are at the heart of our character and beliefs, seems sterile to me.

Diana54 Mon 06-Aug-18 07:00:37

Couples have to be able to discuss even taboo subjects ( sex, politics, religion, Brexit ) without falling out, even if this means one or other changing the subject. Respecting each other's point of view is a big part of having a good relationship.
Having said that activists of any persuasion are very unlikely to be able to live with a partner of the opposite view. Brexit is not one of those issues an activist can influence, however passionate we are in either direction we cannot influence the outcome, either a deal will be done or it won't.

Grannygrunt123 Thu 09-Aug-18 18:00:22

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Jalima1108 Thu 09-Aug-18 18:14:59

confused
have I missed something?

PECS Thu 09-Aug-18 20:19:11

I cannot imagine how I could be in a close relationship with someone who did not share the same fundamental values as me and that would include political outlook. Such an important part of who I am.

varian Thu 09-Aug-18 23:02:05

I think the OP's partner, in spite of being intelligent, has an emotional connection with his brexit vote which is strengthened by his daily dose of the Torygraph and makes him dig in his heels. Deep down, he may be feeling more and more uneasy about the probable outcome, but in the face of the OP's logical and factual comments, he gets more and more extreme. Unfortunately the brexit issue, almost uniquely in our lifetimes, has aroused irrational reactions in many people.

I think, for the sake of their future relationship, the OP must try hard not to blame him personally and not to say "I told you so" if it goes ahead and turns out to be as disastrous as it looks now.

Nelliemoser Thu 09-Aug-18 23:31:15

I could not are very different to mine.
Its not just ones politics as in who you vote for, but more about your views on life.

Nelliemoser Thu 09-Aug-18 23:43:01

(Whoops I lost some words from that post.)

I could not live with someone who did not have very similar views on on how we want the world to work.
Justice, kindness and tolerance. etc

Bridgeit Fri 10-Aug-18 16:36:24

I think the referendum brought out the worst in lots of people, people I have known for years have come out with comments & beliefs that I have found shocking & would not have believed it of them if I hadn’t heard it myself.

Greengal Sat 11-Aug-18 02:35:06

I don't think I have ever seen people more divided over politics than I do now. I agree that's because it's not just about politics but about core viewpoints. And viewpoints seem to be becoming more and more extreme.

OP, sorry to say, you might want to think about whether or not you wish to stay in this relationship. Are other parts of your relationship so good that you would be unhappy without him? Or does this difference in world views overshadow everything else. If it still means a lot to you to be with him, then avoid the subject of politics, especially Brexit. If you could live more or less happily without him and would like the chance to find a more like-minded partner, then, IMO, it's time to start thinking about moving on.