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Rigby46 Fri 16-Jun-17 09:00:24

HQ - can you clarify a point over which there is some current disagreement please You say that GN cafe is meant to be non- judgemental. Does this only mean non-judgemental re named individuals? if so, under the guidance is it fine to go on and pass judgement( negative of course) about groups of posters on the political ( or any other threads) so long as names aren't mentioned because this counts as being non judgemental?

wot Fri 16-Jun-17 13:29:15

Rigby46, I find you very depressing with your constant criticisms. ? and unpleasantness.

Galen Fri 16-Jun-17 13:29:40

as they Clutch their pearls on other threads!

Is this a reference to me?
I don't "do" politics. I am a follower of Pythagoras and abstain from beans!

kittylester Fri 16-Jun-17 13:40:38

If anyone mentions the other threads (in passing) they don't say 'Nasty whatshername was horrid to me' they say things like 'Blimey it's feisty out there'. I have never seen anyone named in the kitchen only posters expressing the fact that they feel bruised.

MawBroon Fri 16-Jun-17 13:42:40

In other words they are commenting on themselves and what is wrong with that?

grannysyb Fri 16-Jun-17 13:55:54

Maw - hear hear, I don't post much in the kitchen but I really enjoy reading everybody's posts and agree with what you say, namely that sometimes people come in and say that they've had to duck down behind the parapet! I don't see why that should offend posters on other threads.

Elegran Fri 16-Jun-17 13:57:13

Temper! temper! I have come to the conclusion that a great deal of the unpleasantness is caused by the high anger levels of the main posters on the political threads spilling over into ALL aspects of GN. They are so fired up to fight battles that they just can't stop. I really think that if it were physical combat they would follow someone into A&E to keep the fight going, and complain bitterly to the staff that their rights were being eroded because the patients had mentioned where it was they came by their injuries.

SK is an A&E sanctuary. People go there to get plasters on their cuts and arnica on their bruises, and recuperate. It is not surprising that during the treatment they sometimes mention the cause of the damage. They don't go on about it, they accept the calm atmosphere and cool down.

Advice to stay off the political threads? It is impossible to avoid, not the threads but the posters who fill threads on all subjects under the sun, claiming that "everything in life is political". Well, A&E is one place where patients under treatment are allowed to be non-political - or even anti-political if that is where their injuries were sustained. They'd be anti-car if they'd just been in a road accident, even if they had not been driving all that well themselves.

Elegran Fri 16-Jun-17 14:00:37

Impossible as it seems to Rigby, she wasn't in the forefront of my mind when I typed the post she exploded about. Perhaps subconsciously I remembered the post, but not the name connected with it. It wasn't posted as a personal attack.

trisher Fri 16-Jun-17 15:16:48

Oh come on why is it argumentative and losing one's temper to get into a political discussion and state one's beliefs with passion? It's this pathetic unfounded and frankly patronising attitude that anyone who says anything which might be considered outspoken or controversial must necessarily either be a) very angry b)mentally ill or c)drunk that is one of the worst elements of GN. People are passionate, if they care about things they are entitled to say so. And the 'holier than thou" attitude that 'nice' people don't do such things is frankly hypocritical. If people want to say nice things and pat each other on the back that's fine. If people don't want to become involved in heated political debates that's fine as well. What isn't fine is to post on a political thread where people hold strong beliefs and then swan off to another thread and moan about how awful other posters are. And frankly if the posters on these 'nice' threads were as 'nice' as they profess to be they would either report the poster who did this or post a reply asking (nicely of course) that people stop posting about these things.

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Jun-17 15:17:13

If you're struggling to find someone to talk to in real life, or are simply looking for a bit of a chat, this is the place for you.
GN Café soop's kitchen was never part of the Café and I don't know why it was moved there - so, if you have no-one to talk to and are upset and need quiet refuge are you not allowed to say what has upset you? Names are never mentioned as far as I can tell.

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Jun-17 15:18:01

patronising is such an over-used word that it has become meaningless.

kittylester Fri 16-Jun-17 15:20:06

Another good post Elegran!

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Jun-17 15:22:05

Oh come on why is it argumentative and losing one's temper to get into a political discussion and state one's beliefs with passion?
Nothing wrong with stating one's beliefs with passion, it is the derision that ensues or the unfounded accusations against other posters if they do not agree 100% with those beliefs and perhaps take a more mainstream, pragmatic approach.
They are considered beyond the pale, lacking compassion, stupid (and patronising) etc etc.

Jane10 Fri 16-Jun-17 15:22:28

As ever Elegran says it all.

Joelise Fri 16-Jun-17 15:32:06

Excellent post Elegran , some people could start a riot in a convent !

MawBroon Fri 16-Jun-17 15:35:22

Rules for GN café /Soop's Kitchen
1) Be nice
2) Feel free to weep on any convenient shoulder
3) Feel free to offer either or both shoulders yourself
4) Never, ever feel you are being a "moaning Mnne"
5) Remember this too shall pass except when it's a furniture van up a one-way street
6) Pets are available by the hour for adoption/petting/pampering. T's & C's may apply (comfort of lap, availability of treats, softness of bed and or sofa etc)
7) cupcakecupcake are always a good idea
8) wine is not compulsory but may help
9) A brew in the right company goes a long way
10) repeat numbers 1) to 9) as necessary.

(What do you mean that's your chair??? gringrin

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Jun-17 15:43:25

What do you mean that's your chair???

as I said to someone at the Art Group once - 'oh, that's my chair' having sat in the same place for about 3 years. She said 'This isn't the Old Folks' Home!' grin

trisher Fri 16-Jun-17 15:45:45

You missed out "Moan about how awful other threads/posters are."

Baggs Fri 16-Jun-17 15:47:50

Nothing wrong with stating one's beliefs with passion, it is the derision that ensues or the unfounded accusations against other posters if they do not agree 100% with those beliefs and perhaps take a more mainstream, pragmatic approach.
They are considered beyond the pale, lacking compassion, stupid (and patronising) etc etc. (*jalima*).

Yup.

kittylester Fri 16-Jun-17 16:07:20

T.risher no one moans about how awful other threads/posters are except in a general way, as in perhaps ' blimey I was lucky to get back here alive!' grin

kittylester Fri 16-Jun-17 16:07:54

Meant to say, exactly Maw!

trisher Fri 16-Jun-17 16:37:36

OK so your definition of moaning must differ from mine
"Hunkering down as somebody has been extremely aggressive, foul mouthed, rude and has given me a total stillalive and kicking. "
Isn't that moaning?
And lots of 'Aww' posts following but NOBODY saying don't post about other threads.
In fact some pretty nasty comments considering you all profess to be so nice. I

trisher Fri 16-Jun-17 16:49:49

Oh and you don't need to name a poster for everyone to be aware of who you mean.

MawBroon Fri 16-Jun-17 16:55:33

Sweetness and light as ever flowers

ninathenana Fri 16-Jun-17 16:57:06

Seriously considering becoming a "lurker"

durhamjen Fri 16-Jun-17 16:58:46

"Welcome on board .... even if I say so myself, our company in the kitchen is well worth having. We leave that lot to hiss, spit and be really nasty to each other. I no longer waste my time reading what they write."

And this one, spoken in a pleasant manner, as usual, trisher.