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Beswitched Tue 15-Feb-22 21:13:32

Really riled about this. A poster started a thread earlier today about bossy pisters trying to control threads. A lot of other posters agreed and said they too had often been made to feel uncomfortable, belittled or jeered at by a minority of posters.

A couple of posters then came on accusing the OP of stirring it and saying people should Name names. Other pisters quite rightly pointed out that this was inappropriate and against rules. The thread was then abruptly zapped as 'not being in the spirit...'

Concerned, I started a thread wondering about the zapping and requesting an explanation. Again a majority of posters agreedand also asjed for an explanation. Again, a couple of posters came on saying they didn't like the original thread, and also objected to my thread.

Once again HQ zapped the thread with no proper explanation. What is going on here!

LauraNorderr Wed 16-Feb-22 22:54:17

Haven’t mentioned the queen yet. I see Andrew has agreed to pay up, I bet that pister off.

rafichagran Wed 16-Feb-22 23:46:44

LauraNorderr

Haven’t mentioned the queen yet. I see Andrew has agreed to pay up, I bet that pister off.

I like that one very funny.

Ro60 Thu 17-Feb-22 00:21:49

?? Just when I thought there's no other line on The pister - brilliant.

JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 08:37:57

Belief in equality, in the rights of minorities and in intersectional feminism are at the core of my being

But the suggested changes to the law and language allow other minority groups to become vulnerable and they would affect safeguarding, women with learning disabilities and the choice in their care for example. This has been raised many times but is ignored or the old common sense will be applied approach is put forward. Unfortunately I have sat in enough best interests meetings to know that really isn't the reality at the heart of decision making

MayBeMaw Thu 17-Feb-22 08:45:35

I do also think it is a shame you ignore me on other topics even though I have tried to engage you to show I have no hard feelings but here we are

I do often wonder, VioletSky -and others- how we can ever tell if somebody is ignoring us on a site such as this .
You can be busy, offline, laptop out of battery, away, out shopping, engrossed in a book, unwilling to get involved in a topic or just not in the mood for GN. Who is to say?
Years ago I remember somebody being castigated because they had not expressed “enough sympathy” for somebody going through an admittedly bad time on a particular thread. I know that they had been in touch both by DM and privately by email. So who is to say?

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 08:54:12

MayBeMaw

Anything is possible

BlueBelle Thu 17-Feb-22 08:54:20

Most of us are ignored for 90% of our posts or even 99% aren’t we ?

Galaxy Thu 17-Feb-22 08:55:09

I think as I mentioned at the start grin this is the problem with these kinds of threads and the 'those posters' thing. It causes hurt and nobody knows who anyone is talking about.

Elegran Thu 17-Feb-22 09:03:16

I second that, MaybeMaw I have seen countless posts from people who thought that because their post hadn't received replies they were being deliberately ignored and sent to Coventry.

As well as your list of reasons, perhaps the post was a reiteration of something that had been repeated several times on that thread (it does get tedious giving the same responses over and over again to the same comments) or perhaps it was just that it hadn't caught anyone's eye strongly enough for them to be triggered to answer.

Galaxy Thu 17-Feb-22 09:04:32

Or perhaps it's just laziness I often think oh I agree with that, that's just what I wanted to say, but I often dont bother to write that.

JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 09:06:26

I am always a bit hmm when some writes an identical post to you and is acknowledged but you are ignored.

Not really, I don't care

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:07:27

Good point JaneJudge.

Also, claiming a belief in ‘equality and the rights of others’ for oneself is something of a dirty trick, as it sets up a binary, and suggests that those who disagree with the point being made support inequality and don’t care about the rights of others.

It is that sort of behaviour (and there is a lot of it on ‘trans threads’) that makes me so vociferous on them. I am happy to be disagreed with, but not to be misrepresented, or to be ‘set up’ in that underhand way. I try not to be nasty, but I won’t sit back and say nothing when those tricks are played. It diverts from the topic, and I know it can be tedious when there is more argument about below the belt debating ‘tactics’ than about the actual issues, but what’s the alternative?

BlueBelle Thu 17-Feb-22 09:09:26

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:09:59

Sorry! I type slowly on my phone, and I missed several posts. My last one was in response to JaneJudge’s above which quoted trisher.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:10:00

My goodness

No one on the trans threads is perfect

Lol

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:12:45

BlueBelle

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Yes, that can be annoying- particularly when the post starts ‘I haven’t read the thread, but . . .’ and then repeats what you have already said, and gets lots of replies.

It’s the way of forums like this though.

JaneJudge Thu 17-Feb-22 09:15:01

I just said that wink

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:17:53

For the record VS did not call me a bigot or a Nazi, that’s not her style. Those who did know who they are. Can we draw a line under this now before there’s further unpleasantness?

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:30:39

Happy to draw a line

I really should avoid those threads entirely because there doesn't seem to be a way to just kindly say what I think without being dragged in to an exhausting discussion where no one is actually really listening to each other, just looking for bits to pick out and argue against

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:32:21

Spot on VS. I find reading them exhausting.

Doodledog Thu 17-Feb-22 09:35:48

Germanshepherdsmum

For the record VS did not call me a bigot or a Nazi, that’s not her style. Those who did know who they are. Can we draw a line under this now before there’s further unpleasantness?

In the spirit of responding to others’posts, can I just point out that I did say you hadn’t ?

And JaneJudge ??

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:40:39

I just don't like being lumped in with others and I've had a... Let's just say... Bad reputation on gransnet that has spread to some quarters unfairly

I'll go fill the chip on my shoulder lol

I still have no idea what that saying means

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Feb-22 09:43:59

Bad reputation? I didn’t know that. Not so far as I’m concerned anyway.

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:44:36

smile

VioletSky Thu 17-Feb-22 09:48:14

I've just looked it up

It refers to people putting a chip of wood on their shoulder and challenging others to knock it off.

I thought that it meant a chip missing out of your shoulder lol