Not in the spirit of Gransnet

I think the "ignoring" being mentioned is not the just not posting an answer to someone who has posted an opinion but ignoring someone's intervention into an established discussion. It may be that a poster misses the odd post but there is no doubt sometimes that some posts are ignored deliberately, any more than there is any doubt that sometimes posts are misconstrued so a poster can develop their own arguments.

For the record GSM I did not say VS had called you a Nazi I said I failed to understand why it was OK to call me a communist but not OK to call anyone a Nazi. No one was named in that statement.

The second part of my post about what trans inclusive supporters (and God knows there aren't many of us on GN I sometimes wonder how restricted some people's lives are) gives names we have all been called. The interesting bit is that those responsible never accept the responsibility but palm it off in pretending to be nice posts.

Personally I know what I think of people I know what I call them. I would never dispute the fact that they believe they are feminist. I do dispute the fact that they are radical feminists. Radical has always been used for new, innovative and progressive ideas. There's nothing progressive about persecuting minorities, it's as old as the patriarchy. Radical has a deep and meaningful history and I strongly object to its misuse.

VioletSky

I've just looked it up

It refers to people putting a chip of wood on their shoulder and challenging others to knock it off.

I thought that it meant a chip missing out of your shoulder lol

That seems like a pretty pointless exercise ?

Why would anyone put a chip on their shoulder?

to attract the seagulls

BlueBelle

You right a good post on page one no replies and page two someone says the same thing and everyone replies to it ??

Yes I always feel a bit "but, but... I already said that and no one's quoted meeee and posted 'well said Beswitched '.".

Then I remember I'm not three years old and let it go

Something I hate and always do call out is posters coming onto a thread to inform the OP that they have no interest in the topic of their thread, or their problem is a 1st World one, or they really must have very little to worry about. It's so rude and unnecessary. If you're not interested in a thread just ignore it. Why try to belittle and insult the OP?

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Beswitched Well said ? ? from your no. 1 Pister ? some folk just can't let things go - my best new word. X

Thanks Ro60

Something I hate and always do call out is posters coming onto a thread to inform the OP that they have no interest in the topic of their thread, or their problem is a 1st World one, or they really must have very little to worry about. It's so rude and unnecessary. If you're not interested in a thread just ignore it. Why try to belittle and insult the OP?

Agreed. We live in a first world country, so of course we have first world problems. It's such a facile insult.

I agree Beswitched. Posters who pop onto N&P threads which are raging away nicely, and say they have better things to do. Well, then off you pop! I wouldn't go onto a knitting thread and tell people how boring it is.

It does show how much we rely on other social signals in a conversation - those that we can't see on a forum - like eye contact, a smile, body language and also knowing the person.

That's true Ro60.

Ro60

It does show how much we rely on other social signals in a conversation - those that we can't see on a forum - like eye contact, a smile, body language and also knowing the person.

So true Ro60 .

I think it's good that several examples have been given as to what rattles posters. The N & P forum is always a tricky one because some posters might want to discuss happenings in the news in a more light hearted manner, but are then accused of trivialising Politics threads. It isn't nice for posters to be told to clear off back to cake baking or flower arranging threads, implying their views are less intelligent or less worthy of discussion.
As Ro60 says, in real life such things can be said with a grin, but written down it looks far more aggressive.

This has been a good informative thread. I am enjoying reading the posts and I like the humour on it. Glad it was not deleted.

I agree Raficha.I haven't taken part because I'm feeling very dull-brained at the moment. Head full of cottonwool.

Rafichagran 15.03 my sentiments too ?
Sometimes is just nice to connect ... Thanks for your responses folks ????
Many thanks to beswitched for coming up with the thread

Thanks Ro60.

I agree that social signals are important and also when you know somebody 'in the round' so to speak you can see their comments and views in some sort of perspective and context. I am quite sure that I would find some of my friends opinionated or sarcastic on here, but because I also see how kind and thoughtful they are in many other ways I just laugh it off as them 'obviously being behind the door when tact was being handed out'.

I think small cultural differences can also lead to misunderstandings. I remember being accused of trying to sound posh on Mumsnet once because I said 'myself and my sister...'
But that's how we say it here in Dublin.
I was also accused on Gransnet of being derogatory about a particular career because I said you had to have a third level degree nowadays to enter it. Third level in Ireland means a university degree, but some posters thought I meant a third rate degree and took offence.

Yes, language is a very interesting one on social media/GN Bewsitched. I tend to use lots of superlatives to paint a word picture, but have then been accused of boasting and showing off. Some posters prefer to the point one liners, but they can come across as abrupt and abrasive too. Very tricky.

Josieann

Yes, language is a very interesting one on social media/GN Bewsitched. I tend to use lots of superlatives to paint a word picture, but have then been accused of boasting and showing off. Some posters prefer to the point one liners, but they can come across as abrupt and abrasive too. Very tricky.

It is tricky, and I am sure that if we typed in conversations as we had them with friends they may well sound judgemental or abrupt, and as for the constant interrupting and shooting off at a tangent....well! However, we all have a responsibility to do our best not to offend as we air our differing opinions, a very useful thread.

I also dislike it when posters come on to say not interested or who cares without further explanation. Why bother to comment, you add nothing to the discussion.
Also posters who write goady threads to get people wound up, to suit their own agenda, it's very sad really.

Well today’s goady thread was taken down, good job too.

It's sad that people think they have the right to be judgemental about others' threads. It shows just how deep their belief in free speech goes. Interestingly GNHQ now seem to have become followers of William Morris so presumably anything which isn't useful or beautiful will be taken down. Who knew?

trisher, nobody was judgmental about the purpose of your thread because you openly admitted that it was to goad people - which is indeed neither useful nor beautiful.

William Morris had a temper so wild it provoked seizures

That’s probably why he wanted everything in his life to be useful or beautiful JaneJudge, so he could stay calm. It’s just a good job my dog’s beautiful as he is sorely trying my patience today.

I don't understand the William Morris reference