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Beswitched Tue 15-Feb-22 21:13:32

Really riled about this. A poster started a thread earlier today about bossy pisters trying to control threads. A lot of other posters agreed and said they too had often been made to feel uncomfortable, belittled or jeered at by a minority of posters.

A couple of posters then came on accusing the OP of stirring it and saying people should Name names. Other pisters quite rightly pointed out that this was inappropriate and against rules. The thread was then abruptly zapped as 'not being in the spirit...'

Concerned, I started a thread wondering about the zapping and requesting an explanation. Again a majority of posters agreedand also asjed for an explanation. Again, a couple of posters came on saying they didn't like the original thread, and also objected to my thread.

Once again HQ zapped the thread with no proper explanation. What is going on here!

rafichagran Wed 16-Feb-22 10:35:56

It's true, these threads do not end well, but I have seen posters driven off this site due to some of the nasty personnel things said to them.
I also had people gang up on me once, rudeness, bullying, and one poster even made a shocking assumption. I just thought Fuck em, but some posters get upset by it. Before people ask I cannot quote the thread.
I also notice if some posters do not like a thread they try to derail it, why not just ignore it.
Yes as a poster said upthread, it is playground noncence, but playground noncence happens in the work place, it happens in clubs, it happens in all sorts of situations and carried out by adults. Let's not underestimate the effect it has on others.

Yammy Wed 16-Feb-22 10:36:09

It strikes me you are damned if you do and damned if you don't[make comments back to objectionable posts] If you do make comments back and might include something said in a former post then your answer is deleted. If you don't answer and just soak it all up you are not really telling your true feelings and they have got away with what they have said to you and often repeat it.
By the way, Coastpath good one but you have just missed a Clinique offer at Fenwicks though John Lewis should be coming on tap in a few weeks.

tickingbird Wed 16-Feb-22 11:08:27

GN Clique = posters with shared views that differ from yours AKA The Pile On Set

Grandmashe43 Wed 16-Feb-22 11:10:48

Well, well done to the ladies who have tried to make a joke out of a subject which is very far from amusing.
It must be awful to be shy or under confident and try to make a valid point, and no wonder so few people are able too. They just give up.
No matter what it’s called, being, dismissed, domineered, ridiculed, is appalling behaviour.
I haven’t been on the receiving end before, however, I will be much more proactive in future and I will not be any bodies
Fall guy for stating my opinions,

Freya5 Wed 16-Feb-22 11:17:12

rafichagran

It's true, these threads do not end well, but I have seen posters driven off this site due to some of the nasty personnel things said to them.
I also had people gang up on me once, rudeness, bullying, and one poster even made a shocking assumption. I just thought Fuck em, but some posters get upset by it. Before people ask I cannot quote the thread.
I also notice if some posters do not like a thread they try to derail it, why not just ignore it.
Yes as a poster said upthread, it is playground noncence, but playground noncence happens in the work place, it happens in clubs, it happens in all sorts of situations and carried out by adults. Let's not underestimate the effect it has on others.

Very well said. Those that disagree with your view, and there will be many, and that’s the idea, would be boring if all agreed, but name calling eg people stupid and other unsavoury terms is totally unpleasant .

Yammy Wed 16-Feb-22 11:37:44

"Cabal "an inner group of posters who think they rule and can set rules because they have been on Gransnet longer than others. They always back each other whether it be kind or hurtful. Things are often pointed out and could be distressing if you are on the receiving end and only recently joined.
They are wanting me to put Transnet again.
Surely new people should be welcomed and their ideas listened to, it is meant to be a forum for all. If people start stopping posting there will be no more Gransnet just the inner cabal . sad

Rosalyn69 Wed 16-Feb-22 11:46:50

Clique is the word of use.
I don’t feel intimidated but usually ignored and never welcome.
It’s cool as I really don’t care but I don’t post as much as I’d like.
It’s the nature of message boards or online groups I think.

Nicegranny Wed 16-Feb-22 11:47:14

rafichagran

It's true, these threads do not end well, but I have seen posters driven off this site due to some of the nasty personnel things said to them.
I also had people gang up on me once, rudeness, bullying, and one poster even made a shocking assumption. I just thought Fuck em, but some posters get upset by it. Before people ask I cannot quote the thread.
I also notice if some posters do not like a thread they try to derail it, why not just ignore it.
Yes as a poster said upthread, it is playground noncence, but playground noncence happens in the work place, it happens in clubs, it happens in all sorts of situations and carried out by adults. Let's not underestimate the effect it has on others.

rachifagran

How come you can actually say “Fuck” in your post when l was bullied and mocked by the bullying nasty women on here for saying “Camilla is an old trollop”.
I mean they were really mean and nasty.
Not the sort of people I would associate with.
But fuck that’s far worse than trollop.

nanna8 Wed 16-Feb-22 11:50:47

I must go around with blindfolds on then. No idea what is going on half the time, clearly. Perhaps they delete everything before it gets to us over here but that doesn’t work because we are a day ahead of the rest so I just don’t know. As I have said, once or twice, when I first joined a while back there was a coven of witches who all flew off into the night in high dudgeon and since then ,as far as I’m concerned, it has been 99.9 % pleasant.

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Feb-22 11:53:48

To call someone a trollop is a personal and judgemental slur on a person.
The use of the word f* was to show strength of feeling.

JaneJudge Wed 16-Feb-22 11:55:02

I must go around with blindfolds on then. No idea what is going on half the time, clearly

are you, me? grin

LadyGaGa Wed 16-Feb-22 11:56:52

I do agree. I have posted occasionally on some well used threads and introduced myself as a newbie. None of the regulars ever say hello or welcome me. It’s just the less regular ones who do. And yes, I also feel that my carefully worded posts are ignored. Once I was jumped upon for no particular reason, so as quite a shy person, who cares what people think of me, I stopped posting. I still read, and sometimes have things to contribute, but stop myself. It’s a shame.

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Feb-22 11:57:56

It’s a full time job keeping on top of everything here, and even I can’t manage it!

LadyGaGa Wed 16-Feb-22 11:58:09

I also joined an Archers forum and it was just the same! I agree it’s the nature of these things.

Callistemon21 Wed 16-Feb-22 11:59:08

'Allo, pisters!
I was just pissing by ze door and notice zis thread is still alive.

Quick, all you guilty pisters, upstairs and hide behind ze folding bed in ze wall .......

MaizieD Wed 16-Feb-22 12:03:05

There aren't any rules about language usage, Nicegranny.

But so much of how people perceive other posters' behaviour is very much dependent on their own ideas of what is right or wrong, what constitutes bullying, harassment, etc. Which makes it difficult to make judgments. And probably hard for the moderators.

I think in most cases it's just as well to ignore what you don't like and put it down to diversity. Mind you, some people can't even handle that. I recall at least one new poster who promptly flounced off the N & P board because she didn't expect people to disagree with her shock

Grandmashe43 Wed 16-Feb-22 12:05:32

LadyGaGa, maybe it’s time for the silent majority to take a stance.
I’ve often felt like posting but thought is it worth it.

MaizieD Wed 16-Feb-22 12:07:48

FannyCornforth

To call someone a trollop is a personal and judgemental slur on a person.
The use of the word f* was to show strength of feeling.

That's just your opinion, though, Fanny. It doesn't make it a guiding principle for posters. It would be different if the T & C explicitly said that posters mustn't say rude things about people in the public eye (that'd put paid to a lot of N & P threads wouldn't it?)

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Feb-22 12:10:37

I think that it might be the guiding principle for HQ, though Maizie

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 12:11:46

Never take the slightest bit of notice of others telling you what you may or may not post, is my advice.
It changes from week to week anyway.
I report what I see as bullying, and presume gnhq will deal with it or not, as they see fit.

And I have seen bullying behaviour on here, not merely differences of opinion.

Gransnet is for everyone, not just the "longstanding and well respected" members.

Casdon Wed 16-Feb-22 12:11:50

*Go for it Granmashe43, you have the power to change it, or at least make your voice heard. I’d still love to know which threads you feel the issues are happening on?

Zoejory Wed 16-Feb-22 12:12:27

I rather like the word trollop. It's rather quaint. One rarely hears it. So if anyone wants to use the word aim it at me and I shall smile and say thanks.

Chrissyoh Wed 16-Feb-22 12:17:49

Hi *LadyGaGa
I don’t post much either - but read some threads most days.
So just saying Hello ! X*

Maggiemaybe Wed 16-Feb-22 12:20:04

I quite like the word minx. Apparently it has sexual connotations and is disapproved of now (according to Mumsnet law). Though I think Minnie’s still in the Beano.

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 12:20:27

And its hello from me, too. smile