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Beswitched Tue 15-Feb-22 21:13:32

Really riled about this. A poster started a thread earlier today about bossy pisters trying to control threads. A lot of other posters agreed and said they too had often been made to feel uncomfortable, belittled or jeered at by a minority of posters.

A couple of posters then came on accusing the OP of stirring it and saying people should Name names. Other pisters quite rightly pointed out that this was inappropriate and against rules. The thread was then abruptly zapped as 'not being in the spirit...'

Concerned, I started a thread wondering about the zapping and requesting an explanation. Again a majority of posters agreedand also asjed for an explanation. Again, a couple of posters came on saying they didn't like the original thread, and also objected to my thread.

Once again HQ zapped the thread with no proper explanation. What is going on here!

Marydoll Wed 16-Feb-22 12:43:14

Sometimes, I feel it is better not to report and to let posts stand.
That way, readers can actually see how awful some are.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 16-Feb-22 12:43:42

Yammy

"Cabal "an inner group of posters who think they rule and can set rules because they have been on Gransnet longer than others. They always back each other whether it be kind or hurtful. Things are often pointed out and could be distressing if you are on the receiving end and only recently joined.
They are wanting me to put Transnet again.
Surely new people should be welcomed and their ideas listened to, it is meant to be a forum for all. If people start stopping posting there will be no more Gransnet just the inner cabal . sad

Yammy, not all of us who have been on GN since the beginning are part of your "Cabal"! Some of us are actually quite nice...

JaneJudge Wed 16-Feb-22 12:44:01

Beswitched

Yes Jane judge and thank you for remembering . You were very kind at that time but I can still remember some of the thoughtless posts I received. It was terribly upsetting. Fair enough if people disagreed with my view but when someone is obviously going through a bad time surely posters could disagree with a bit of compassion.

I was upset for you. It was just really unnecessary sad xx

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Feb-22 12:44:52

I’ve mentioned the disappearing threads to HQ loads of times, and they deny that it is happening; or that I don’t know how the system works; or that I don’t know what I’m talking about

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 12:45:30

I go for the two pronged approach.
Say something there and then, and tell them I am about to report.

There again, people see that as malicious reporting, so there is no winning.

Goodbyetoallthat Wed 16-Feb-22 12:49:54

I certainly enjoy a robust exchange of opinion & many posters/ threads are very informative. I also do not particularly subscribe to the always "be kind" mantra. However i do feel at certain times there is a degree of unpleasant behaviour where posts become rude & personal & i can understand people being wary of posting,
Obviously those who have been members from the outset will know each other well, however if new members are not made to feel welcome the site will simply stagnate.

Doodledog Wed 16-Feb-22 12:50:28

Grandmashe43

Doodle dog, that’s the point, it’s the way it’s disagreed with, not everybody can argue their point but do want their opinions to be heard,without feeling foolish or hurt.

Yes, I understand that Grandmashe, and I do feel that we should all be more alert to obvious nastiness and support one another when it occurs.

The trouble is that some people take any disagreement with their views as making them look foolish, and accuse the disagree-ers of bullying. I think that if someone just wants to post an opinion without backing it up they can expect to be called on it, just as in 'real life'. I don't mean a fully cited and referenced essay, but 'I think the government is rubbish/marvellous/whatever - just my opinion' is not really making a contribution to a thread, but 'I think they are rubbish/marvellous/whatever because . . .' is different.

I can understand someone replying to the first example by asking for some sort of reasoning, but have seen people take exception to being asked, and claiming to have been 'pounced on'. Others post similar, then complain of being ignored on the thread when there is nothing to say to their post, really.

There are 'chat threads' for those who don't want to be asked about their opinions, though - nobody should feel unable to post.

Callistemon21 Wed 16-Feb-22 12:50:29

Beswitched
I wasn't being unkind when I laughed at your typo pisters
I'm always making typos or being miscorrected by autocorrect.

bossy pisters
I loved it ?

Doodledog Wed 16-Feb-22 12:55:46

Nicegranny

I’m not sure how to spell the modern version but I like the word in this sentence and I think you will get my meaning,
“She’s a bit of a ho”. It’s meaning , whore.

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Is this on the right thread?

downnotout Wed 16-Feb-22 12:59:36

Well that has been very interesting. I only dip in and out of GN and when I see a post I might comment on there are usually already 3-4 pages of posts and someone has inevitably brought up the points I would have raised myself. As a relatively new GNer I see lots of regular posters. Are they the clique or coven? It never crossed my mind. Some people use GN more than others and enjoy a good debate and I always enjoy reading the ‘repartie’. Someone said earlier GNers are from far and wide and so we have all had different upbringings and find different things offensive. Some are more sensitive than others about words used (trollop, scum etc). Unless something is said that is directly bullying or slander or libel I think we are all old enough to take a few knocks from others being childish and insensitive to what we post. That’s the whole point of group discussion isn’t it? Or am I missing something?

rafichagran Wed 16-Feb-22 13:01:58

I have never said anything about the post you are talking about.Your word was discriptive, mine was to say I did not let them bother me. I would have politely disagreed with you calling anyone a Trollop.
I must also add the post that concerned me was hurtful, I very rarely swear on Gransnet, but it is a truthful description if how I felt.

rafichagran Wed 16-Feb-22 13:03:46

Sorry that was to Nice Granny. I am in a cafe and somehow the quote did not work.

Chrissyoh Wed 16-Feb-22 13:05:00

smileHello to you too Doodledog !

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 13:06:52

Yes, we are all different, but one thing I'm sure we all have in common is not wanting a pile on of strangers being spiteful to us.

Marydoll Wed 16-Feb-22 13:08:09

MissAdventure

Yes, we are all different, but one thing I'm sure we all have in common is not wanting a pile on of strangers being spiteful to us.

Spot on MissA

Goodbyetoallthat Wed 16-Feb-22 13:08:25

Ah Callistemon the dreaded typo!
I work in higher education & once received an e-mail from a colleague at another institution asking me to deliver a lecture.
I meant to reply that I would have been happy to but that "I had a thing on in my own college". Unfortunately I was in a hurry & failed to proof read & the message went that sadly I would not be able to as I had a "thong on in the college"
I never heard from them again.

Callistemon21 Wed 16-Feb-22 13:09:31

I wish there was a threads I started button so I could update on my greenhouse and wildlife stories.

JaneJudge you could use the I'm Watching button which will list threads you might be particularly interested in.

Callistemon21 Wed 16-Feb-22 13:11:46

Goodbyetoallthat

???

My DD once sent me a list of text messages with hilarious typos which was doing the rounds.

Nicegranny Wed 16-Feb-22 13:17:45

I feel like I have taken what I imagine magic mushrooms to be like.

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 13:19:27

I'll have some of whatever you've had, then. wink

icanhandthemback Wed 16-Feb-22 13:19:38

Maggiemaybe, in some quarters a Minnie means something quite personal! Minnie the Minx is just double trouble!!!!

I don't tend to engage with people who write bullying comments. I think that what they write shows them up for who they are and they are unlikely to change just because I call them out. "Bullying" can be quite subjective too. In some cases it is just a strongly held view written without couching one's terms. I do think that most people try to disagree without intending to bully but sometimes you just have bad days when life is making you more grouchy than you need to be.

Elegran Wed 16-Feb-22 13:27:00

Maria59

Bossy posters can report threads they do not like and then they are removed.
Perhaps GN should refer to previous reports to check if its malicious reporting same for those members who are often reported

And others can report threads by bossy posters.

There is no need for anyone to hang around resenting being bossed about - just pull on your big girl knickers and either get in there and fight back or leave that thread and go and look at a different one. Bossy posters can't operate if no-one is cowed by them. To misquote another saying, no-one can bully you unless you let them.

MissAdventure Wed 16-Feb-22 13:30:17

I disagree.

Maggiemaybe Wed 16-Feb-22 13:34:23

Maggiemaybe, in some quarters a Minnie means something quite personal! Minnie the Minx is just double trouble!!!!

Oh no, I really must keep up! Someone should tell those nice people at the Beano. smile

Nicegranny Wed 16-Feb-22 13:36:57

MissAdventure
I agree with you that you disagree with Elegran these people who bully write their posts in an underhand way some even direct. These people are gutless and weak.
I photo shopped the comments that they wrote and one even told a blatant lie about something l was supposed to have said.
They know who they are.