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Gregg Wallace : Another report

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Delia22 Thu 28-Nov-24 12:56:18

Not another celebrity accused of sexual misconduct ! This time it's Gregg Wallace! Kirsty Wark accused him from 2011.

Paperbackwriter Fri 29-Nov-24 15:01:03

In our house we refer to him as The Dog. He seems to do nothing on those Masterchef shows except snuffle around the food and eat anything he can get hold of.

montymops Fri 29-Nov-24 15:05:09

I do so agree with you NonGrannyMoll.

bikergran Fri 29-Nov-24 15:07:41

Is anyone surprised! it's the BBC.

Crossstitchfan Fri 29-Nov-24 15:10:31

Retroladywriting

Not surprised at all. He's always given me the heeby jeebies.

Me too! I remember telling my husband years ago that Wallace gave me a weird feeling (and not in a nice way!). My friends are now saying the same. He is a nasty piece of work but he will get away with it, you’ll see!
I hate to say it but I’m not happy about Torode either. A weird pair.

Wyllow3 Fri 29-Nov-24 15:16:13

bikergran

Is anyone surprised! it's the BBC.

Its not made by the BBC, he is not employed by the BBC, its a production company Banijay UK, and whats happening is that the BBC are taking action against the company, who are "investigating it"

Gregg Wallace is to step away from presenting MasterChef while allegations of historical misconduct are investigated, the show's production company has said.

It comes after BBC News sent a letter to Wallace’s representatives on Tuesday setting out allegations of inappropriate sexual comments by 13 people who worked with him across a range of shows over a 17-year period.

Broadcaster Kirsty Wark, who was a Celebrity MasterChef contestant in 2011, said he told "sexualised" jokes during filming.
Wallace's lawyers say it is entirely false that he engages in behaviour of a sexually harassing nature.

Masterchef's production company Banijay UK has launched an investigation and said Wallace is co-operating

Crossstitchfan Fri 29-Nov-24 15:16:24

What I don’t understand is why these things take years to surface. If the victims are uncomfortable about speaking up, shouldn’t they perhaps look to themselves when things go pear-shaped? I am not condoning the pests at all but I do think victims are their own worst enemies by keeping quiet. If they spoke up at the time, the problem could be addressed. What do they hope to achieve after 20 years? Also, they should feel guilty - by not speaking up at the time, they have allowed other women to suffer all these years. Shame on them!

Mollygo Fri 29-Nov-24 15:18:59

My only complaint about Greg Wallace was that he wasn’t a cook.
Shocking that there appears to be more issues, but amazing how he’s got away with it so long, judging by all the feelings on here.
Perhaps it’s time for us to report any uneasiness about TV personalities as soon as we feel uneasy, to protect potential sufferers and to let them know that they’re supported.

Crossstitchfan Fri 29-Nov-24 15:23:22

NonGrannyMoll

"Upskirting What the hell is that all about. ???" I was a comely young woman in the 1970s and men trying to look up your mini-skirt when they sat opposite on you on the train was a common thing. They just didn't have mobiles/cameras then to record what they saw - which was actually not very much when you compare it to what's on tv quite legally these days. I think it's partly those double standards which lie at the heart of the current debate about men's behaviour. I'll be shouted down for this but I do think women have to accept a certain amount of responsibility for the way they're perceived. (This is a general comment, by the way, not an opinion on the Gregg Wallace case, about which I know zilch except that some women have pointed a finger at him.) In the 70s I wore see-through blouses, mini-skirts, hot-pants, jumpsuits split from neck to navel, etc, and yet I got indignant if a man treated me like a cheap & easy conquest! Girls work very hard at achieving their overall "look", all the while paying scant regard to what kinds of male reaction that "look" can inspire. We can't make ourselves look like hot stuff and at the same time expect every man on earth to know that we aren't up for casual grabs. We can't effectively argue that "men ought to behave better" when we present an image which encourages some of them to behave in a less than gentlemanly manner. You don't have to dress like a nun, you just have to refrain from exposing your bits and wiggling your rear end as you teeter along on "f-me" heels. I heard a comedian talking about girls who go "out on the razz" at weekends dressed like ladies of the night. "It must be really annoying for the real street-walkers, trying to make a living when there are so many girls out doing it for nothing," was one of his lines, followed by, "Of course, it's hard for the men, too, not knowing which are which." He gave me food for thought, anyway, as does the current media trend for showcasing women dressed (or should I say undressed) in a certain suggestive way. And no, I've never been an admirer of Mary Whitehouse, if that's what you're thinking!

I so agree with your post. You expressed how I feel beautifully. Thank you

Jeanathome Fri 29-Nov-24 15:24:38

Crossstitchfan

What I don’t understand is why these things take years to surface. If the victims are uncomfortable about speaking up, shouldn’t they perhaps look to themselves when things go pear-shaped? I am not condoning the pests at all but I do think victims are their own worst enemies by keeping quiet. If they spoke up at the time, the problem could be addressed. What do they hope to achieve after 20 years? Also, they should feel guilty - by not speaking up at the time, they have allowed other women to suffer all these years. Shame on them!

Money, it's always abotu money.

Dcba Fri 29-Nov-24 15:27:51

Well said ……

vegansrock Fri 29-Nov-24 15:41:12

A lot did complain at the time but it was swept under the rug

MissInterpreted Fri 29-Nov-24 15:47:07

Crossstitchfan

What I don’t understand is why these things take years to surface. If the victims are uncomfortable about speaking up, shouldn’t they perhaps look to themselves when things go pear-shaped? I am not condoning the pests at all but I do think victims are their own worst enemies by keeping quiet. If they spoke up at the time, the problem could be addressed. What do they hope to achieve after 20 years? Also, they should feel guilty - by not speaking up at the time, they have allowed other women to suffer all these years. Shame on them!

Wow, just wow...

welbeck Fri 29-Nov-24 15:55:16

some of these people victim blaming attitudes are sadly still found among some older women.
They don't seem interested in educating themselves about the issues.
Some have asserted that they don't know anyone who's been harassed. I pointed out that maybe for some obscure reason the people who have been harassed didn't feel comfortable confiding in them.
What is the age limit for jury service now?

Neilspurgeon0 Fri 29-Nov-24 16:04:33

@GrannyNannyWanny. It was “uncovered” if that is the right word by the BBC news team - presumably Kirsty Wark’s mates, so I guess they wanted to blow their own trumpets

MissAdventure Fri 29-Nov-24 16:07:46

This thread makes me wonder just how many girls/women would sooner say nothing than come up against the attitudes they'd face from family and/or friends.

Ziplok Fri 29-Nov-24 16:09:29

What is being forgotten here by some, or not understood or even deliberately ignored, is that many of these young women were too frightened of the repercussions if they spoke out at the time (I’m thinking of the more historic cases going back several decades), or of even being believed.

Attitudes by some males were quite different, probably because it was normalised back then to say and do things which today would be called out and condemned. It was probably viewed as banter and women should just have to accept it as such.

Thankfully, it’s becoming more and more possible to speak out now, to be listened to, heard and believed and for action to start to be taken - there’s still a long way to go, and sadly some people still have the attitude that it’s ok to treat people in this way and there others who still believe the victim somehow “asked for it” (as evidenced by some of the comments on this thread).

I’m aware, too, that there are male victims of unwanted attentions.

It takes courage to speak out, and so some victims have been afraid to do so, but as they see others doing so it they, too, feel braver to also speak out.

I find some of the comments on this thread utterly disgusting in their victim shaming tone.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Nov-24 16:13:48

Oh, "banter".

The type a council workman did when he cornered my 13 year old daughter, and asked her if she was a virgin, and if she had a boyfriend.

Really amusing, coming from some repulsive old fart, old enough to be my dad, let alone hers.

HelterSkelter1 Fri 29-Nov-24 16:37:27

I agree ziplock. This is an utterly depressing post. The victim shaming is shocking. GWs behaviour is shocking. This is 2024 not 1960. These were women and men subjected to unpleasant and inappropriate behaviour and comments in a workplace ....where they should feel safe.

Ziplok Fri 29-Nov-24 16:40:55

It’s pretty disgusting really, isn’t it, when you look back and think of occasions when you were spoken to inappropriately by males in a more senior position than you at work?

I remember a particular creep of a boss I had the misfortune to work for when I’d only just started working. He’d pin me against the filing cabinet to ask me “how my love life was”(always making sure no one was near enough by to notice). I was a timid soul back then and just didn’t know how to respond. It’s all very well to say “speak out”, “ make them look ridiculous”, “call them out”, etc, etc - but when you’re a naive 18 year old and he’s your senior boss in his fifties, if you’re far from confident, as I was then, it’s not easy to complain. Besides, back then, I doubt I would have been listened to and likely would have lost my job.

Grannynannywanny Fri 29-Nov-24 16:49:42

Neilspurgeon0

@GrannyNannyWanny. It was “uncovered” if that is the right word by the BBC news team - presumably Kirsty Wark’s mates, so I guess they wanted to blow their own trumpets

I’m puzzled as to why you’ve included my name in your strange post 🤷‍♀️

Aveline Fri 29-Nov-24 16:55:47

I can only suppose it was to do with hanging on to their jobs that women didn't speak up at the time.
However, I can honestly say that I have never been faced by situations like these other than with the females giving as good banter as they got!

Sarnia Fri 29-Nov-24 16:57:51

I wonder why Kirsty Wark took 14 years to decide she had been sexualised by Gregg Wallace. Reminds me of Only Fools and Horses when Del is telling Rodney that a local lady had gone to the police to complain she had been 'interfered with' a week before. When Rodney asked why it had taken her a week to report it, Del replied she didn't know she had been interfered with until the cheque bounced.

MissInterpreted Fri 29-Nov-24 17:02:21

Sarnia

I wonder why Kirsty Wark took 14 years to decide she had been sexualised by Gregg Wallace. Reminds me of Only Fools and Horses when Del is telling Rodney that a local lady had gone to the police to complain she had been 'interfered with' a week before. When Rodney asked why it had taken her a week to report it, Del replied she didn't know she had been interfered with until the cheque bounced.

'Sexualised'? That's a funny way to put it...
Also, are you suggesting that these woman are only on the lookout for a cheque\?

wibblywobblywobblebottom Fri 29-Nov-24 17:04:30

Honestly, until it was mentioned in the News, I'd never heard of him. Then again I've never watched Masterchef.

Delia22 Fri 29-Nov-24 17:11:47

winterwhite

All this is very true and I know nothing about this man but I dislike these cases coming up out of the past. I think people should speak up at the time and not let it drop.

Winterwhite; apparently some of the complainers did take their complaints to the "authorities" .They were dismissed!