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Yogagirl, it may seem like all is lost just now. I hope that the time will come where minds will be changed in the future. My heart goes out to you.

Yogagirl I am really sorry it turned into such a rotten experience for you. It does seem at this time all is lost and you must be feeling at your lowest but sometimes a seed is planted. Things do change.

Keep posting yogagirl with your thoughts and feelings. We are all on your side. or to go with the

yogagirl I am so very, very sad for you.

A sad day for you Yogagirl I can't believe your side of the story went unheard, that is so unfair! Were you represented by a Barrister?
I echo Galen's comment and hope you really can appeal. ((((HUGS))))

Yogagran my heart goes out to you, you are a courageous woman , maybe one day things will change, miracles can happen. Hang on in there . Love and (((hugs)))

What you describe hardly seems fair justice at all - only listening to one side of an argument is very biased and I thought the point of judges was to be fair. The outcome is awful for you and the other family sound dreadful and truly unkind and vindictive as well as being liars. I hope that somewhere along the line things will change and there will be a happy ending - keep faith and continue hoping.

I agree it seems appalling to not be able to read your statements etc.

When you feel a l title stronger I feel I would complain about that.

Howare you feeling today pretty drained I would imagine big hugs from me x x

Morning Ladies, and thank you very much for all your kind words, it does mean a lot to me.
I did found it very hard to get through my nice daughters 30th Birthday meal, the night of the court hearing, and then my work last night,my face must have looked like a death mask. My friends were all shocked and very sad and angry for me, but they said, as some of you on here have, that its not the end, things will happen, now I'm out of the picture.

I will enlightening you all more, in-case any of you have been put off going to court. I think with my case two things happened
1) I messed up big time (I did need a lawyer at the last hearing)
2) Who my s.i.l's family are, could have influenced the Judge.
In the the Judges summing-up she said; "I can see clearly your hatred for your s.i.l", Jason stated this at least twice during the hearing, obviously I had tried to keep this out of my statements, written or verbal, but it must have shown through, I did point out, I had no problem with him before all this, and that this all came from my D and s.i.l big fight, which I successfully mediated between them to get them back together (if I'd have known then, what I know now!!)
The other big mistake I made was I stated about the cultural differences (light bulb moment ladies):
Jason and his family are all gypsies (and proud of it), although they all live in houses now. I would therefore like to teach Laila and Jack, our culture of love and understanding for all people and animals and to be gentle and kind
Hope I don't get a back-lash from disclosing this bit on here.
The Judge looked very unfavourably on this part of my statement and pointed out to me that my GS Jack is therefore part gypsy! I can't believe I didn't think of that, so I blew it, big time!
When my daughter got up to leave the hearing, I said "Jenni", she looked at me and I continued, "Remember me when Laila gives you grandchildren"
The thing that will be etched on my brain forever, is my daughter joining in with the glee and laughter in the car-park, after the hearing, the unspeakable cruel words said to me, her devoted mum, not altering her happy, broadly smiling face, standing close with the others geering me.
My nice daughter said to me "Mum, she's brain-washed, its like she's been taken-over by a Cult"

I think your nice daughter is very perceptive. It is like a cult and like many intelligent members of a cult she may one day see through it all and want her own freedom. I hope so and I know you will be there for her. Good luck.

Yogagirl Gorki is right your daughter been brain washed like mine I fear.
We hope Go overTom with some personal bits found in loft but feel very nervous our dear neighbour offered one and my brother offered go and take will take some toys etc in his van.

So hard we been at each others throats today! Part of us so wants a break through but fear more hurt.

Keep strong yogagirl our time will come xx x

Good luck for tomorrow celebgran.I hope you get some positive feedback.

Thanks Gorki very nervous, our elderly. Friend and neighbour offered come to,support us!
Still worried bout our little Doug Rosie and painters due start today ref flod damage in bedroom can it get worse?

Continued best wishes for today celebgran.I missed the bit about Rosie. What is the problem with her ?

Oh bless you Rosie off her food and listless vet says could be heat blood test showed up higher enzyme in liver but he does not seem that worried about that us rowing does not help now my oh says we should not go with me having got tensed up and we loaded car last night scream scream

Good morning girls
I wish you the best of luck today Celebgran. Your D, seeing all her childhood things, it may bring her round, it can't make it any worse.
I was on my own at the court hearing and in the car-park after, friends said they would come with me, or wait outside, but I didn't want anyone to witness all that nastiness. You would think, my D seeing me on my own with all her in-laws going for me, would have brought up some sympathy, but no!
I wish your Rosie good health Celebgran hope she gets better soon. What bread is she?
I've never got to grips with some of the initials on here, that you all use. I've put D for daughter, I'm guessing DD is as well, why double D?
[wine and flowers] for you Celebgran when you get back from your D, I hope it all goes well xx

I do feel for you Yogagirl. I think your daughter is right about the cult and a form of brain washing. As others have already said, things can change in the future. One of our children came back into our lives this spring, after an absence of over ten years when even the Salvation Army couldn't find him. He was amazed that we were prepared to talk to him!
Our other children don't want us to be hurt again but are prepared to accept that a parent's love is everlasting and unchangeable.

The extra D can be whatever you want it to be. Usually dear or darling sometimes dratted or...... It's amazing how many adjectives you can think of beginning with D when you put your mind to it.

yoga I can well understand you not wanting any of your friends to witness the behaviour in the car park etc. but you know it might just have given one or two trusted ones a good insight of what you have been enduring and what you are up against.
Thank you for telling us more background information - I too think your DD is right in what she feels has happened to her sister - must be hard for her too. Just never give up hope or close your door.

Thanks yogagirl in total bits found out daughter on maternity leave!
Another grandchild we won't see.
What did I so wrong to have such heartbreak?
We left stuff on step no one in. Put note with it asking if she wanted boy this time and how could she treat her mum and dad this way?

They told us at her work she was on mat leave.
Feel in bits.
Lucky my son and family coming next week.

What a terrible shock for you "celebgran". Hang on in there and don't give up. She may finds she needs you with another baby on the way.
You haven't done anything wrongto receive this treatment.

I am sure you will have a good time with your son and family

yoga & celeb keep strong you never know what a new day brings

I echo glass's post, *yoga8 and celeb. I know what you're going through, and my heart goes out to you both. xx

I meant to type yoga and celeb - my finger slipped!

Oh what a shock celebgran for you and for yoga as well.