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The Good that Men do - Donald Trump?

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BigBertha1 Thu 14-Jan-21 12:40:23

I dont usually join in the politics on here but I was just wondering over breakfast with DH today did DT do any good during his term of office- anything at all??

NotSpaghetti Thu 11-Feb-21 10:21:46

Indeed Jane.
I was just trying to drag myself back to the original post...

Rhinestone Thu 11-Feb-21 10:43:07

During the Capitol riot, instead of calling off his followers, he was calling senators to stop the counting of the votes. He did NOTHING for hours. His Vice President and his family were hunted. He said to a crowd that he as relying on Mike Pence to change the votes. If he read the constitution he would know that Jan 6 is just ceremonial. Pence could do nothing. All the stars had ratified their votes for Biden.
And the cowards of the senate who probably won’t convict Trump should pray very hard that karma doesn’t come back to tie them. What a slap in the face that will be to the police who saved those Republican senators and those who died trying to save them. They should all be ashamed.

varian Thu 11-Feb-21 19:18:48

It seems a foregone conclusion that most Republican Senators will support Trump
The result might be different if they could cast a secret vote and it is theoretically possible for that to happen if the procedure could be changed as it could be by a simple majority.

Rhinestone Sat 13-Feb-21 11:54:49

VarianI agree that the outcome of a secret ballot might work . And then I ask what are they afraid of to not speak out and verbally cast their conscience. They are the party of Trump and not the conservative Republican Party. We will need a new party.

timetogo2016 Sat 13-Feb-21 12:02:46

He`s a bigger one CSizzle ,iv`e always thought he stinks.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 20:51:12

Acquittal

Well I sincerely hope that they won’t rue this day.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:11:18

Mitch McConnell has stood up and said that Trump is directly responsible for January 6th, but McConnell voted to acquit!!?

MayBee70 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:12:42

I give up. I totally despair.....

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:14:01

Are you watching maybe? it has left me open mouthed

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:16:29

If you didn’t know you would say McConnell was a democrat.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:19:11

His argument is absolute nonsense.

Jane43 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:23:36

The defence has been disgusting. The prosecution limited their evidence to Donald Trump and the events pertinent to the invasion of The Capitol whereas the defence have slung in everything they can find about just about everybody, even Johnny Depp. They even had a meeting on how to proceed with some Republican senators who are supposed to be the jury. I just had a news flash that he hasn’t been convicted only 7 Republicans voted to convict. I know it was predictable but I still find it shocking. Trump will be insufferable now and he has said he will target the Republicans who voted against him.

Jane43 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:26:38

Sorry WWM I see you mentioned his acquittal a few posts ago.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:27:09

McConnell is suggesting that the way forward is civil and criminal litigation

“Trump is still liable for everything he did whilst in office”

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:43:45

McConnell is trying to run with the hares and hounds it seems to me. He is trying to be on the right side of history whilst still not voting to convict.

Jane43 Sat 13-Feb-21 22:34:25

They are saying on CNN that McConnell wants to put the burden of whether or not to pursue prosecution on Biden. They also say that the main reason for McConnell saying what he did was to appease the big donors, it always boils down to the power of the dollar.

Smileless2012 Sun 14-Feb-21 09:36:55

"Well I sincerely hope that they wont rue this day" they will I'm sure WW as will the rest of America. The one chance they had to close this idiot down and they've squandered it.

Urmstongran Sun 14-Feb-21 09:48:08

Well, well.
This result was never in doubt.

Boz Sun 14-Feb-21 10:52:04

There are other circling this "turbulent priest". Tax Evasion is viewed more seriously in the States than anywhere else. People like Trump never make it in the end. Just give it time and "enough rope".

Jane43 Sun 14-Feb-21 11:09:21

Boz I hope you are right and this man will get his comeuppance in the very near future. His sons are already gloating and shouting about their father’s ‘victory’. I do wish commentators on tv would get things right, one woman on Andrew Marr said he hadn’t been impeached this time, he has been impeached twice and wasn’t found guilty of the charges because a two thirds majority verdict is needed in the Senate which was never going to happen given the numbers.

NannyC2 Sun 14-Feb-21 12:04:09

Democrats FAILED to impeach Trump

Boz Sun 14-Feb-21 12:22:11

Jane
The problem the Republicans have is that Trump was a vote winner for them; he appeals to the mob of low-intelligence and/or the MAGA fanatics and those with racial fears of being "over-run" by B and E minorities.
What would really make America Great Again is to embrace their founding principle of open arms to all people and the world.

Iam64 Sun 14-Feb-21 12:34:36

Yes the result was never in doubt urmston. That doesn’t make it the right result tho. He remains dangerous

eazybee Sun 14-Feb-21 12:42:02

This is a day of shame for the Republican Party, the Grand Old Party as it chooses to call itself. Trump is simply their figurehead, one they are prepared to keep as long as he can make trouble for the elected party.
What would make America great again, but won't happen, would be for the Republicans and the Democrats to listen to the people who thought Trump was supporting them, the dispossessed and down -trodden, not an insulting-called mob of low intelligence, but people whose jobs and economy have been destroyed and their needs ignored. Trump or his team identified this, made promises, gained power and then abandoned them in the same way as he abandoned his supporters in the Capitol. He is cleared, they will pay the price.

varian Sun 14-Feb-21 12:46:04

NannyC2

Democrats FAILED to impeach Trump

Wrong again NannyC2 The Democrats did impeach Trump twice, and the majority of the Senators found him guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Unfortunately 43 Republican Senators were so afraid of Trump's thugs that they failed in their duty to convict him.